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The “mechanical miracle” that ruined Mark Twain’s life

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Re: The “mechanical miracle” that ruined Mark Twain’s life

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Lineotype they use lead letters. They use an alloy. There was a lot of lead, but there's also other metals in it because lead is too soft to be useful in a press. The alloy had the interest stream property that it has very low shrinkage when it cooled.

Classic letterpress type is lead, antimony and tin, but I don’t know if the so-called hot lead machines used that particular alloy. People usually just call it all “lead type” though.

Classic letter writing is dread, acrimony and gin.

Re: The “mechanical miracle” that ruined Mark Twain’s life

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I wish school curriculum included things like "how printing actually worked through ages". Monks writing out manuscripts is somewhat relatable since we all (at least for now) still learn how to write. Everyone is taught the Gutenberg press was a big deal -- but how did it actually work? Why was it still a pain and how did later inventions fix those problems?

In my school curriculum here in Vienna, this was very specifically taught in history class.

That's really awesome! Did they have you try and typeset something by hand? I feel like for us it presented as some magical thing that made producing books trivially easy, whereas in reality typesetting a page was still very labor intensive and not that fast!

Re: The “mechanical miracle” that ruined Mark Twain’s life

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post #16

I wish school curriculum included things like "how printing actually worked through ages". Monks writing out manuscripts is somewhat relatable since we all (at least for now) still learn how to write. Everyone is taught the Gutenberg press was a big deal -- but how did it actually work? Why was it still a pain and how did later inventions fix those problems?

Most of the things school curricula touch turn awful.

It's never been easier for you and interested kids to learn these things on their own.

Re: The “mechanical miracle” that ruined Mark Twain’s life

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I wish school curriculum included things like "how printing actually worked through ages". Monks writing out manuscripts is somewhat relatable since we all (at least for now) still learn how to write. Everyone is taught the Gutenberg press was a big deal -- but how did it actually work? Why was it still a pain and how did later inventions fix those problems?

Most of the things school curricula touch turn awful. It's never been easier for you and interested kids to learn these things on their own.

I know them now, the questions were rhetorical.

I agree that school curricula is often bad. I disagree that we should just accept it as hopeless and not hope it could get better.

Re: The “mechanical miracle” that ruined Mark Twain’s life

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post #16

I wish school curriculum included things like "how printing actually worked through ages". Monks writing out manuscripts is somewhat relatable since we all (at least for now) still learn how to write. Everyone is taught the Gutenberg press was a big deal -- but how did it actually work? Why was it still a pain and how did later inventions fix those problems?

Most of the things school curricula touch turn awful. It's never been easier for you and interested kids to learn these things on their own.

The vast majority of people vastly overestimate how well they learn things without the feedback of formal education.

Easier on its own is therefore effectively meaningless when people aren’t actually learning beyond the most superficial layers.

Re: The “mechanical miracle” that ruined Mark Twain’s life

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the things school curricula touch turn awful. It's never been easier for you and interested kids to learn these things on their own.

I know them now, the questions were rhetorical. I agree that school curricula is often bad. I disagree that we should just accept it as hopeless and not hope it could get better.

No, no, just the opposite: school curricula are full of lofty highfalutin ideas.

I didn't say anything is hopeless. It's just that adding more good and lofty ideas and topics to the curriculum isn't addressing the actual bottleneck.

Re: The “mechanical miracle” that ruined Mark Twain’s life

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my school curriculum here in Vienna, this was very specifically taught in history class.

That's really awesome! Did they have you try and typeset something by hand? I feel like for us it presented as some magical thing that made producing books trivially easy, whereas in reality typesetting a page was still very labor intensive and not that fast!

The printer setup is where all the cost is, the printing itself is practically free.
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