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Apple Is the King of AI and Nobody Knows It

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Re: Apple Is the King of AI and Nobody Knows It

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Post by glimshe »

dd8601fn wrote: post #30
glimshe wrote: post #24

The king of AI is yet to ship a modern AI assistant.

This is actually a stronger argument for Apple than the article makes. The king of AI isn’t the shop with the biggest/bestest model, or whose machine has the bandwidth and unified memory. It’s the company who has the trust of a massive number of users. Apple was smart enough to give OpenAI the finger on deep integration, and focus on building out the part that everyone really wants. Whoever provides the llm inference…

Has Apple built the part everybody wants? I'm a Mac used and I'm yet to see it. Instead I got transparent buttons I didn't ask for.

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Post by bbg2401 »

jsnell wrote: post #26

Unbearable AI slop, flagged.

I wonder if the author will leave a comment justifying the tediously vanilla LLM-generated prose by stating English isn’t their native tongue and that the original truly was the fruits of their own rigorous thinking and writing efforts.

It would be nonsense of course, but it’s a tale that seems to work for a significant number of readers here.

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Post by bigyabai »

adabyron wrote: post #22
xyzsparetimexyz wrote: post #3

So the argument of this _very_ Claude written piece is that.. On apple devices you have GPUs with fast-enough unified memory and can link them together? Okay, fair, but why would I get an Apple device when I can get a Linux device with some monster motherboard that has a dozen memory slots?

This made me go down a rabbit hole. Looks like Mac Minis had a 64 GB model (hard to get now) for roughly $1,600. You could get a 3 of these (192GB) & thanks to the Thunderbolt 5 connection, they out performed any single board AMD for a similar price that had more memory. If you tried to do so something similar with Nvidia GPU you're looking at a lot of watts, cooling & a much faster experience but only 48 GB of memor…

> only 48 GB of memory.

You can layer the LLMs across multiple GPUs, you can absolutely have 192gb of Nvidia dGPU memory with the right MOBO and CPU combo.

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Post by cyanbane »

xyzsparetimexyz wrote: post #3

So the argument of this _very_ Claude written piece is that.. On apple devices you have GPUs with fast-enough unified memory and can link them together? Okay, fair, but why would I get an Apple device when I can get a Linux device with some monster motherboard that has a dozen memory slots?

I submitted this ( I am not the author ) because I thought it was interesting take, I honestly didn't think it was AI, maybe AI polished, but not AI. Was surprised when it was flagged and I saw over on HN Removals . Ran through Claude and got this back:

"Overall, my honest read: this feels like a human-written opinion piece (possibly AI-assisted for polish/editing, which is extremely common now), not a fully AI-generated article. The specific personal history ("I've been saying this in group chats for months"), the running joke about being right before everyone else, and the reader engagement in the comments (with the author replying) all point to a real person with a strong personality behind it — though I can't rule out that Claude or another model helped tighten the prose."

It is interesting that everyone was so very certain it was AI written. Just read your comment about it being Claude based, now I am trying to figure out if Claude is trying to recuse itself in some way by giving me those results.

Still feel like the point it interesting and going to keep diving into it and I am surprised it was flagged. May have to up my reading on Removals more and more.

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Post by brookman64k »

cyanbane wrote: post #34
xyzsparetimexyz wrote: post #3

So the argument of this _very_ Claude written piece is that.. On apple devices you have GPUs with fast-enough unified memory and can link them together? Okay, fair, but why would I get an Apple device when I can get a Linux device with some monster motherboard that has a dozen memory slots?

I submitted this ( I am not the author ) because I thought it was interesting take, I honestly didn't think it was AI, maybe AI polished, but not AI. Was surprised when it was flagged and I saw over on HN Removals . Ran through Claude and got this back: "Overall, my honest read: this feels like a human-written opinion piece (possibly AI-assisted for polish/editing, which is extremely common now), not a fully AI-gener…

I don’t think that a generative model is a good judge to assess if a text was written by itself. This article has a super stong “written by AI” smell to it. Once you notice all the em dashes and “it isn’t X, it’s Y”patterns you can’t unsee it. That plus the sloppy images, make it really hard for me to finish reading.

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Post by iknowstuff »

rescripting wrote: post #6
iknowstuff wrote: post #4

Any interaction with the iOS 27 beta siri compared with ChatGPT Live quickly disproves this drivel. Also OP seems unaware of their bandwidth contstraints

What does the quality of Siri vs ChatGPT have to do with the argument made in the article?

Apple hires people who don’t know how to integrate existing models even well behind the state of the art

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Post by adabyron »

bigyabai wrote: post #33
adabyron wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This made me go down a rabbit hole. Looks like Mac Minis had a 64 GB model (hard to get now) for roughly $1,600. You could get a 3 of these (192GB) & thanks to the Thunderbolt 5 connection, they out performed any single board AMD for a similar price that had more memory. If you tried to do so something similar with Nvidia GPU you're looking at a lot of watts, cooling & a much faster experience but only 48 GB of memor…

> only 48 GB of memory. You can layer the LLMs across multiple GPUs, you can absolutely have 192gb of Nvidia dGPU memory with the right MOBO and CPU combo.

I was trying to compare equal in price
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