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MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

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Re: MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

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As much as I'd like to support this, $1400 places it squarely in the "disability tax" bracket that accompanies products targeting this market.

Are you saying the company is overcharging people 10-1,000x?

(That would let Google Glass also fall squarely into this bracket...)

Re: MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

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Does it work? There seem to be screenshots and nuanced wordings that implies it's currently more often configured like a gyro mouse with a touch button...

As a replacement for a desktop user's mouse? No. Could write paragraphs about how it's a special niche, and the device shines in that niche.

I've been in the HCI-enthusiast space due to carpal tunnel for a while now. I actually caused myself to have to have the surgery after going all out with QMK mouse keys, which ended up just moving the problem to a different set of fingers. (So maybe not an expert.)

Re: MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

#34

As much as I'd like to support this, $1400 places it squarely in the "disability tax" bracket that accompanies products targeting this market.

Perfect the enemy of the good there?

The more support they get, the easier it becomes to justify dropping the price. The more likely a cheaper competitor shows up.

Would this product have launched if a minimal profit cap were regulatorily mandated?

Re: MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

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post #32

Does it work? There seem to be screenshots and nuanced wordings that implies it's currently more often configured like a gyro mouse with a touch button...

As a replacement for a desktop user's mouse? No. Could write paragraphs about how it's a special niche, and the device shines in that niche. I've been in the HCI-enthusiast space due to carpal tunnel for a while now. I actually caused myself to have to have the surgery after going all out with QMK mouse keys, which ended up just moving the problem to a different set of fingers. (So maybe not an expert.)

The part I'm not sure is if they have precise tongue location working, of if they have resorted to the pad as mostly just hot corners. I don't have that much doubt about the concept.

Re: MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

#36
The lady mentioning that she uses it to connect with her vibrator certainly wasn't what I was expecting in a glossy product marketing video. Between that and the video call from Rocky's Australian e-girlfriend(?) the video felt like it was sliding into the surreal near the end.

But, I mean, cool. I hope they have fun with it and it improves their lives.

Re: MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

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So refreshing to see such and interesting innovation in the hardware space! Curious as to what’s the business play here, as at $1400 a piece these don’t seem like mass-market devices. And the high-end market is even more constrained with the size of the subpopulation it is aimed at. Regardless of the business model, fingers crossed that more great assistive tech like this one ships!

Because there is no mass market, relatively speaking.

But they also don't have iso accreditation for medical use.

Re: MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

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So refreshing to see such and interesting innovation in the hardware space! Curious as to what’s the business play here, as at $1400 a piece these don’t seem like mass-market devices. And the high-end market is even more constrained with the size of the subpopulation it is aimed at. Regardless of the business model, fingers crossed that more great assistive tech like this one ships!

It's a relatively low volume, customised product, likely with high development costs (even if it doesn't fall under medical device regulations, making something battery- powered that you stick in your mouth is gonna need a good safety case). It's also very valuable to those who use it, so the market can support the high price needed to cover development (the per unit costs are likely much smaller: note you can buy tw…

They definitely need to follow regulations as otherwise this misses the entire market that it's aiming at. You are far better of incorporating this into medical settings than just people with disabilities and disposable income.

Re: MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

#39
The price seems high for straight to end user sales avoiding the medical regulations needed for use in medical settings. I'm curious why that is and also why you wouldn't design with iso accreditation in mind and get approval. That opens up the market far more.

Re: MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never even thought of that use case! What kind of stuff do you do on a computer while doing procedures? Like reference material? Tracking what you’ve done?

A lot less cool than you’d imagine, but hey this is real life. The computer my comfort place, so it’s there to keep my mind occupied and distracted from the treatment’s (iontophoresis) pain. A lot of feel-good scrolling, browsing HN, Reddit, my inbox, multitasking YouTube, etc. If I’m feeling particularly motivated I’ll use STT in my IDE and get some planning done.

For others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iontophoresis
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