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Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

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Re: Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think there’s any context that would make executing a father in front of his daughter and actively suppressing accountability any better. You might call it emotional blackmail, but many of us would consider it “pointing out basic human rights”. Enforcing the law is not inherently good. It is only as good as the morality behind the law and the manner it which it is enforced. This administration and the forces…

It is not a basic human right to enter a country illegally, or to overstay a visa. You also show absolutely no concern for human rights when an ICE activist mowed down two ICE detainees accidentally, tellingly so. You allegedly care about ICE detainees, but will happily ignore their deaths if they were slaughtered by an anti-ICE activist. It's not a good look, is it? The activists also continually highlight the pligh…

The world would be better off if people like you offed themselves enmasse

Re: Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

#32

I don't think this will have the effect that the administration thinks it will. People aren't ignoring all of the things they have been up to. They're keeping track, regardless of the data that the government puts out. Still, the administration thinks people will just forget. In their minds, it will all simmer down, and since they now control the government, they can avoid consequences from voters and from the courts…

The Epstein affair was eventually successfully forgotten. I still pretend to be surprised, to keep my decency.

Re: Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

#33
post #11

That's alright, I've been counting them myself to keep track, since I knew other sources of the data would eventually disappear. So far, eight people have been deported.

> I've been counting them myself to keep track, since I knew other sources of the data would eventually disappear. So far, eight people have been deported. If only 8 people have been deported so far that would mean American children would make up half of your list. Just in 2025 50,000 people were deported to Guatemala alone ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNICf0Nd3BM )

My apologies, I assumed it was obvious that my comment was a joke.

Re: Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

#34

"Federal Agents Were Told F.B.I. Will No Longer Investigate ICE Confrontations": * https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/19/us/pol... “For my friends everything, for my enemies the law.” ― Oscar R. Benavides, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Óscar_R._Benavides#Later_life

that includes if the public shoots them, right?

Re: Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most Americans have been ignoring it and doing nothing. All the protests to date are still quite far away from the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule

Most Americans feel like there are still other routes to vent frustration. Memes, jokes, voting, public meetings, etc. The administration seems to be focused on removing these junctures.

do-nothing protests and online means don't claw back any of the money they've stolen, or repair any of the organizational destruction they've done

"daddy what did you do during the erosion of our democracy?"

"we shard some white hot memes with several like minded friends"

Re: Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which of those has the administration been focused on removing? I can't think of any.

Well, let's see here: Voting: "When you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election" - Trump [0] The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, which Trump has been throwing fits about Congress not passing [1] Memes: Admittedly, this one's far looser, as it's local law enforcement doing the arrest, not the federal government, but "Tennessee man jailed over anti-Trump meme suing sheriff, county" [2] It would be int…

That is weak evidence that the administration is "focused on removing" memes, jokes, voting, public meetings, etc. The SAVE act can arguably be seen as increasing confidence in our elections by adopting standard practices from developed democracies worldwide.

Re: Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

#37
post #7

Lets not forget the the FBI recently announced they will no longer investigate any crimes ICE commits.

Then it should be easier to convince a judge the FBI can’t claim jurisdiction over murders for something they admit they won’t investigate.

Re: Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

#38
post #27

First you try to record the ICE officers, then the ICE officers pepper spray you, then Alex Pretti steps in, then they tackle him, take his gun, and murder him in cold blood. Then the feds grab the evidence to make sure the investigation has as little to go on as humanly possible. Now this. The information lockdown continues apace.

He wasn’t murdered. He was prevented from murdering.

Then why prevent the investigation? It's standard procedure when a cop kills someone and the courts are notoriously deferential to the police. ICE is speaking with actions, and those actions say they can't even begin to make the case that Pretti had murderous intent.

It's also obvious to anyone who has seen the recordings. Which is why ICE is so hell-bent on stopping recordings.

Re: Amid Increased Scrutiny, ICE Detention and Deportation Data Goes Dark

#39
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think there’s any context that would make executing a father in front of his daughter and actively suppressing accountability any better. You might call it emotional blackmail, but many of us would consider it “pointing out basic human rights”. Enforcing the law is not inherently good. It is only as good as the morality behind the law and the manner it which it is enforced. This administration and the forces…

It is not a basic human right to enter a country illegally, or to overstay a visa. You also show absolutely no concern for human rights when an ICE activist mowed down two ICE detainees accidentally, tellingly so. You allegedly care about ICE detainees, but will happily ignore their deaths if they were slaughtered by an anti-ICE activist. It's not a good look, is it? The activists also continually highlight the pligh…

Man you’re really all over the place but ONE thing is for certain. You really don’t care about humans. Best of luck in this life :)
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