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NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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There's several other areas that would be good to categorically ban AI usage from: - gambling - dating - hiring - advertising It shouldn't even be controversial that this would be broadly good for society. I say that as an AI maximalist: I fully trust AI with these things. I do not trust the humans using the AI.

You trust AI with dating?

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Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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Isn't literally every photograph taken with a modern iPhone technically an "AI-generated / AI-edited image"?

no, the photos you take with the lenses on your phone are not AI generated. They are generated from the sensors on your phone. Have you seen some of these listings? We are talking about retaining walls invented where they can’t exist, work displayed that hasn’t occurred, etc. if you show up to a property and it’s materially different than the picture that got you there, that should be illegal. If you want to make an…

It's not as simple a question as you make it sound: https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-galaxy...

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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There's several other areas that would be good to categorically ban AI usage from: - gambling - dating - hiring - advertising It shouldn't even be controversial that this would be broadly good for society. I say that as an AI maximalist: I fully trust AI with these things. I do not trust the humans using the AI.

You trust AI with dating?

Maybe his taste in partners is just that bad

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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There's several other areas that would be good to categorically ban AI usage from: - gambling - dating - hiring - advertising It shouldn't even be controversial that this would be broadly good for society. I say that as an AI maximalist: I fully trust AI with these things. I do not trust the humans using the AI.

Does basic photoshop count as AI usage...? What about changing color balance, dynamic range, etc?

Obviously not, though they may count as misleading image manipulation, and should be similarly regulated. The problem is subjectivity - AI is just a convenient bright line with an easy definition.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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HN title is missing the operative word "secretly". The real title: > Mayor Mamdani Says Landlords Can’t Secretly Use AI Images to Advertise Properties The article contents align with the real title: you just disclose AI usage when advertising rentals.

That kind of regulation has failed over and over. The obvious outcome is that every listing will have misleading AI "photos".

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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HN title is missing the operative word "secretly". The real title: > Mayor Mamdani Says Landlords Can’t Secretly Use AI Images to Advertise Properties The article contents align with the real title: you just disclose AI usage when advertising rentals.

That kind of regulation has failed over and over. The obvious outcome is that every listing will have misleading AI "photos".

What?

Is your claim that every photo will be labeled as AI-modified, or that people won't label AI-modified images? If the latter, just penalize the listing agents. Trivial.

The entire issue is that the platforms are already inundated with misleading, unlabeled AI-modified images.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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Isn't literally every photograph taken with a modern iPhone technically an "AI-generated / AI-edited image"?

Given that this would be the first ever law with any degree of ambiguity ever created, we should create some type of like... room... maybe call it a "court"... where people could "judge" whether a person fell on the allowable or disallowable end of the spectrum

It's a groundbreaking idea but it might work. And who knows, maybe it's an innovation we could apply to other areas of law in case they also ever need to interact with any ambiguity (which hasn't happened yet, of course).

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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HN title is missing the operative word "secretly". The real title: > Mayor Mamdani Says Landlords Can’t Secretly Use AI Images to Advertise Properties The article contents align with the real title: you just disclose AI usage when advertising rentals.

That kind of regulation has failed over and over. The obvious outcome is that every listing will have misleading AI "photos".

Come on, there is no such thing as "trace amounts of AI" in a photo of a building.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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I think this could be something where the middle ground is the best option, this being, just make the rule that any listing with a picture that includes GenAI must also include the original un-AI’d photo right before it. This allows the lister to present the place as it is (important to the renter) and how it could be (important to the lister). I don’t think everything needs to be black and white
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