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Re: Telegram Serverless

#31
post #14

telegram is full of bots and spam. before it was a better WhatsApp alternative. now either WhatsApp or Signal.

> telegram is full of bots

It's been a core feature of Telegram since almost the beginning, and one of the main reasons I end up using Telegram, not sure why you'd think this is a drawback. The spam sucks though, not sure how they haven't got a handle on it yet.

Re: Telegram Serverless

#32
Good lord. This reeks of LLM... why should I use your product when you can't be bothered to have a human write it? Why should I trust it to work correctly or have been decently tested, neither of which is a given when having an AI vibe-code it?

And why is it one huge single page of word salad instead of self-contained units?

Anyway, good to see someone post a fully self contained example demonstrating core concepts. At least one thing done right.

Re: Telegram Serverless

#33
post #21

Emphasis mine: > Each invocation runs in a lightweight V8 isolate, close to Telegram's own systems, so calls to the Bot API and your database are quick and reliable. Telegram’s servers are distributed worldwide. I understand that the calls to the Bot API may be quick because the serverless code would be propagated to the edge, but how does it handle an SQLite DB? Is that also replicated to guarantee quick access from…

Telegram's servers are far from "distributed worldwide": In fact, it currently has only 5 logical "data center"s, and while DC3 is still on, clues [0] seem to suggest DC3 doesn't actually carry user data at all now, and both DC2 and 4 are in Amsterdam, so essentially they just need to serve 3 locations.

Also, Telegram's protocol design only allows for connecting to user's home DC for any write interactions (except media, which in most cases still is home DC, or a "media DC" alongside the home DC). Bots are based on the same DC of the user, so almost all meaningful interactions will happen only on one DC for any specific bot.

[0]: https://dev.moe/en/3025

Re: Telegram Serverless

#34
post #5
post #2

This is off-topic, but I was kind of surprised to see this page written by Claude. I guess I shouldn't really be surprised, but I somehow didn't expect it.

Out of curiosity - how did you figure this out? I cannot find any hints about that. Was it the language used?

I can't quite tell you, it wasn't something specific, Claude's writing is just a specific sort of punchy. The "directly on X - no Y, no Z, no A" and the "this is the part you no longer have to do" just smell a lot like Claude. Also "removes that layer entirely", "they map cleanly onto each other", it's all just Claude.

It's how you see a painting and you know it's by Picasso, let's say, or you read an author and you know it's Hemingway. Everyone has their own unique style, and so does Claude. It's just that Claude is the most prolific writer in human history now.

Re: Telegram Serverless

#35

Good lord. This reeks of LLM... why should I use your product when you can't be bothered to have a human write it? Why should I trust it to work correctly or have been decently tested, neither of which is a given when having an AI vibe-code it? And why is it one huge single page of word salad instead of self-contained units? Anyway, good to see someone post a fully self contained example demonstrating core concepts.…

Sounds like it's free, so, why the hate? May as well have zero docs. I don't think they're trying to convince you of anything.

Re: Telegram Serverless

#39
post #14

telegram is full of bots and spam. before it was a better WhatsApp alternative. now either WhatsApp or Signal.

> telegram is full of bots It's been a core feature of Telegram since almost the beginning, and one of the main reasons I end up using Telegram, not sure why you'd think this is a drawback. The spam sucks though, not sure how they haven't got a handle on it yet.

If you don’t join spammy groups you won’t get spam

Re: Telegram Serverless

#40
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> telegram is full of bots It's been a core feature of Telegram since almost the beginning, and one of the main reasons I end up using Telegram, not sure why you'd think this is a drawback. The spam sucks though, not sure how they haven't got a handle on it yet.

If you don’t join spammy groups you won’t get spam

Fair, I am a part of a bunch of groups I no longer care about that the spam might originate from. Thanks :)
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