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Re: Precursor

#31
post #12

It’s a bit alarming how cloudflare is establishing itself as arbiter of all things bots…both on blocking and allowing. Doesn’t seem healthy for the internet as a whole

Apart from handling of abuse reports. Yeah we're acting as CDN for this phishing site - we'll just inform the upstream about it and do nothing.

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#32
post #12

It’s a bit alarming how cloudflare is establishing itself as arbiter of all things bots…both on blocking and allowing. Doesn’t seem healthy for the internet as a whole

Yes, but it’s up to their competitors to build competing services.

I think it's up to their customers not to encourage consolidation.

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#33

control+F accessibility no results Yeah so this mouse movement astrology is going to completely lock non-sighted/keyboard only users out of large swaths of the Internet isn't it.

I'd imagine that mouse movement is just one signal among many that's weighted appropriately, but I hope we get feedback from these users

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#34

control+F accessibility no results Yeah so this mouse movement astrology is going to completely lock non-sighted/keyboard only users out of large swaths of the Internet isn't it.

I'm guessing it's going to lock the non-sighted//keyboard only users out of the anonymous Internet. I'm guessing if you log in and give up your anonymity they'll consider you not a bot.

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#35
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but it’s up to their competitors to build competing services.

I think it's up to their customers not to encourage consolidation.

Microsoft is the proof that customers do want that, or that they don't have a real choice.

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#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s less weird if you think there’s a difference between good bots and bad bots. They can provide services for good bots to use while helping people keep out the bad ones. If a bot is simulating mouse movement but doing it badly then that’s a strong signal of shenanigans. A good bot will obey robots.txt and do nothing to hide that it’s a bot.

Who gets to decide what is a good bot?

Me… obviously

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#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s less weird if you think there’s a difference between good bots and bad bots. They can provide services for good bots to use while helping people keep out the bad ones. If a bot is simulating mouse movement but doing it badly then that’s a strong signal of shenanigans. A good bot will obey robots.txt and do nothing to hide that it’s a bot.

Who gets to decide what is a good bot?

Cloudflare, apparently.

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#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s less weird if you think there’s a difference between good bots and bad bots. They can provide services for good bots to use while helping people keep out the bad ones. If a bot is simulating mouse movement but doing it badly then that’s a strong signal of shenanigans. A good bot will obey robots.txt and do nothing to hide that it’s a bot.

Who gets to decide what is a good bot?

Presumably the site owner with Cloudflare providing enforcement.

Generally isn't a good bot one that respects robots.txt and is respectful of the site's resources by not being spammy?

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#40
post #12

It’s a bit alarming how cloudflare is establishing itself as arbiter of all things bots…both on blocking and allowing. Doesn’t seem healthy for the internet as a whole

It's business as usual and it's our job to vote with our wallets.
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