Very interesting approach, however I wonder if the combination of Codex + Work in the same app makes sense? I could see a world where the technical needs of a developer are hampered by the overall superapp architecture. I guess we'll see?
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#32Yeah... No.
I can get some useful results from codex at work, because I have to, except for when I don't. I accept that risk factor and compensate by reviewing _everything_ it spits out.
But we all know what coding is, in a very broad stroke manner, sure.
What does an end of month report mean? I automatically increase the font size when I send the spreadsheet to Paul. I review tickets and provide a meta write-up on Friday. Or maybe Monday, because Fred didn't get back to me until 5:30 Friday, and I closed my laptop at 4.
These are just little things, and they're repetitive, but each time, there's some little idiosyncracy. I have reservations regarding any piece of software being able to finesse that.
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#33OpenAI clearly failed to consult ChatGPT for branding advice.
At least they didn't consult the USB Forum, which is what they have done in the past.
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#34I just installed this. I am very confused. I no longer have a Codex app on my computer. ChatGPT is now Codex. But what happened to ChatGPT? Where am I supposed to casually chat? Also, when you toggle btween ChatGPT Work and ChatGPT Codex, nothing changes. This is super confusing. Can someone from the OpenAI team clarify the difference btwn the modes? Does chatgpt work have more business-y related plugins turned on by…
The only difference I can see is that the controls for local/remote, branch, and worktrees disappear, and instead it shows office suite plugins. I would presume it affects the system prompt in the background?
Very confusing. But I do find it potentially interesting to treat general office work no differently from coding, which is something I had already been using Codex for in many ways before today
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#35All models I’ve used have been exceptionally bad at creating a high level business oriented vision and strategy from various inputs. The output just feels like it can’t see past the next word, or render distance, misses the big picture and anything not specified in prompt or input context
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#36Am I the only one who thinks this landing page is garbage? Funkily it feels like a long wall of slop. I guess you shouldn’t get high on your own supply.
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#37I wonder why they haven’t simply continued to rebrand Codex as a general-purpose tool. ChatGPT Work is a convoluted name and continues the trend of having separate brands for separate things, what runs counter to OpenAI’s purported goal of unifying every workflow into a single “superapp”. Worse still: what happens when your workflow involves both coding and general knowledge work? Are you expected to switch apps, or…
because every non-programmer hears “codex” and thinks that it’s for coding only - seems like a large hurdle to adoption. claude has been successful with cowork branding which makes sense.
It looks like the ChatGPT is a very strong brand despite the confusing name (who the hell knows what GPT stands for?)
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#38I wish OpenAI had a family plan. I would love to pay and have my wife and kids use ChatGPT on a single subscription.
You could try Group Chats, though I'm not sure they will use the higher models of the subscribing participants..
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Feels like forever in the AI world but Claude Cowork only launched ~5 months ago. So not that overdue.
The capabilities were launched months ago. This is just retiring the ChatGPT app and replacing it with Codex for the masses edit reply because rate-limited: They were exposed via the Codex desktop app and controllable via the iOS app.
The capabilities are useless if you don't expose them, and a cli or api doesn't. You'll mention their marketing page keeps talking about finance, sales, management etc...
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#40The resulting "combined" Codex + ChatGPT mac app is super confusing. I use the Codex app with my work account, but I liked the old ChatGPT app, which I kept logged in with my personal account, for my LLM chat needs. I guess I can just use ChatGPT.com, but this was a rather jarring change.