You see from 3D-scan how tippy it is. Add guns on upper deck and it is dead https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/vasa-ship-137c0e1436e947e088...
Lessons from the Vasa Shipwreck
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#33I find it ironic that the most prominent museum in Sweden is for a ship that only made it 3km before sinking. While in Norway you can visit and walk aboard the "Fram". The most successful Arctic Exploration ship. https://frammuseum.no/our-exhibitions/fram/
Vasa is a fair bit older, are there any other as well preserved from its time?
We have some viking ships that are older than the Vasa.
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#34The FT article is an extremely superficial description of the events, which does a disservice to the depth and span of archaeological research and discovery which has taken place since the Vasa's discovery. If anyone's visiting Stockholm, the Vasa museum is well worth a visit. For those further afield, the museum's website offers a wealth of details about its conception, history, discovery, and our contemporary under…
That's what I tell anyone visiting Stockholm: if there is one museum to do, that's the Vasa. It's exceptional and super quick (you can literally get there, see a very old boat in an incredible state, and leave).
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#35I find it ironic that the most prominent museum in Sweden is for a ship that only made it 3km before sinking. While in Norway you can visit and walk aboard the "Fram". The most successful Arctic Exploration ship. https://frammuseum.no/our-exhibitions/fram/
> a ship that only made it 3km before sinking.
Well that's precisely because it made it only 3km before sinking that we can see it.
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#37Definitely go if you get a chance. It’s bigger than I expected and the building housing it is neat too
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#38I no longer have access, but this I remember being a good paper on the Vasa in the context of product design and project management https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=31396
I found this: https://faculty.up.edu/lulay/failure/vasacasestudy.pdf . Fascinating failure
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I didn't mean the truth is unknown, just that the popular version of the story (major design changes mandated late in the build by an executive who didn't understand the consequences of what they were asking for) might not be exactly true, depending on who is telling the story.
The deeper issue was that no-one had the ability to push back on the king's demands. When the king rules by divine right, pushing back on the stakeholder is pushing back on God. Back in the day that was a great way to expedite the process of your head being separated from your torso.
That's a bit unfair, since one of the achievements of Gustavus Adolphus was establishing governing institutions and professional bureucracy.
The bigger issue with that plan was be that the king was off fighting a war in Poland.