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Re: Google Search lets creators know more about their reach

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Reading about anything Google Search in 2026 gives off some Yahoo vibes around 2006.

I noticed yesterday that they've managed to make editing the text field on their search page lag and flip/reorder characters entered during the edit: editing “foot pedal” into “foot pedal keyboard” became “foot pedal oardkeyb”

I've had it happen many times that the characters appear right to left. Using google in steam overlay makes this happen constantly

Re: Google Search lets creators know more about their reach

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The most interesting part of the official announcement [0]: "As people gravitate toward firsthand perspectives..." That implies Google is seeing a shift away from people relying on just AI-generated summaries, and checking the cited sources more. I have certainly found that when I ask a chat tool something, and then go to the human-written source webpage, it's not uncommon I get a different insight than what the AI i…

Hopefully that is the case, because what Google and others are trying via AI, is to privatize the web. They already tried it via AMP.

People are probably annoyed that AI/LLMs are lying to them, so not everyone sees the main threat being Google trying to containerize and "walled garden" approach access to information.

> I have certainly found that when I ask a chat tool something, and then go to the human-written source webpage, it's not uncommon I get a different insight than what the AI implied.

Well, many people pointed out that AI lies. We can have two reasons for this:

1) deliberate 2) a feature of how AI works

I think it is mostly 1), but 2) could also factor in, because if ALL AI is lying, then probably something is wrong with how AI works right now. Since they prefer to hallucinate. But AI could be made stricter and not hallucinate, so I think 1) is the main issue.

Re: Google Search lets creators know more about their reach

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The most interesting part of the official announcement [0]: "As people gravitate toward firsthand perspectives..." That implies Google is seeing a shift away from people relying on just AI-generated summaries, and checking the cited sources more. I have certainly found that when I ask a chat tool something, and then go to the human-written source webpage, it's not uncommon I get a different insight than what the AI i…

Hopefully that is the case, because what Google and others are trying via AI, is to privatize the web. They already tried it via AMP. People are probably annoyed that AI/LLMs are lying to them, so not everyone sees the main threat being Google trying to containerize and "walled garden" approach access to information. > I have certainly found that when I ask a chat tool something, and then go to the human-written sour…

> But AI could be made stricter and not hallucinate

Do you have a source for this? So far every single LLM-like does a lot of hallucinating, often just small things like wording that implies stronger correlations than exist, or wording that implies relationships that don't exist, etc. but sometimes it's also just wrong facts.

Re: Google Search lets creators know more about their reach

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The most interesting part of the official announcement [0]: "As people gravitate toward firsthand perspectives..." That implies Google is seeing a shift away from people relying on just AI-generated summaries, and checking the cited sources more. I have certainly found that when I ask a chat tool something, and then go to the human-written source webpage, it's not uncommon I get a different insight than what the AI i…

I don't think that means anything. It's just some random words to add pretense to an arbitrary change. I mean, just stop to think about it. You have a Youtube account, you post videos. Analytics shows traffic from Google but can't show you the keywords. At one point, Google merged Youtube with Google+. Just did it outright without asking anybody. Youtubers link their Youtube accounts with Google AdSense. You can link…

The term you're looking for might be "maintenance mode". This sounds like what we do with software we don't care to develop further, even if it's the big cash cow

Re: Google Search lets creators know more about their reach

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They made search worse on purpose to make more money, then tried to gaslight everyone by blaming SEO. It was getting rather hard to find things with it, I would have to explain to people that search wasn’t always this bad. I have negative sympathy for them.

If they indeed made search worse “on purpose”, there should be plenty of alternatives with better results. I’ve tried about a dozen of them, including paid ones like Kagi, and found the quality of results to be universally worse than Google’s, especially for niche searches where it matters the most.

I recently tried Kagi again after not being particularly impressed 2-3 years ago. Swapped it to default after a week. For me it works better than Google probably 80% of the time now.

Google also did 100% make search worse on purpose as this great piece discusses: https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

Doctorow goes into greater detail on how Google purposely worsened Google search in his book Enshittification. It’s a very thorough chapter and it’s clear what they did. They were chasing “engagement hacks.”

Re: Google Search lets creators know more about their reach

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The most interesting part of the official announcement [0]: "As people gravitate toward firsthand perspectives..." That implies Google is seeing a shift away from people relying on just AI-generated summaries, and checking the cited sources more. I have certainly found that when I ask a chat tool something, and then go to the human-written source webpage, it's not uncommon I get a different insight than what the AI i…

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Re: Google Search lets creators know more about their reach

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The most interesting part of the official announcement [0]: "As people gravitate toward firsthand perspectives..." That implies Google is seeing a shift away from people relying on just AI-generated summaries, and checking the cited sources more. I have certainly found that when I ask a chat tool something, and then go to the human-written source webpage, it's not uncommon I get a different insight than what the AI i…

> "a different insight" What a generous euphemism. Depending on the topic, it's not unusual to see Google AI search referencing links that indicate the exact opposite of what it presents in its prose. So many of these tools are presented as if they're doing something you'd intuitively expect of a human operator, like collating search results and then summarizing them in this case, but the actual operation of them is…

Yesterday ChatGPT gave me 5 references to a site that doesn’t exist. It’s such a bummer how useless these tools are so much of the time, while seeming so helpful. In fact they are actually helpful, which is why it’s so irritating.

Re: Google Search lets creators know more about their reach

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "a different insight" What a generous euphemism. Depending on the topic, it's not unusual to see Google AI search referencing links that indicate the exact opposite of what it presents in its prose. So many of these tools are presented as if they're doing something you'd intuitively expect of a human operator, like collating search results and then summarizing them in this case, but the actual operation of them is…

Yesterday ChatGPT gave me 5 references to a site that doesn’t exist. It’s such a bummer how useless these tools are so much of the time, while seeming so helpful. In fact they are actually helpful, which is why it’s so irritating.

Meanwhile, I asked ChatGPT to verify the ALIAS DNS records of its search results so I could build evidence Netlify was blocking me [1], and it worked flawlessly.

I've replaced Google almost wholesale with ChatGPT and Claude.

[1] If you use Claude Code to assess a Netlify website (even your own), they'll block your IP address from the entire netlify.app IP range.

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