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Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Try discipline

curious kind of discipline you have in mind.

Time-honored punishment: revoke various privileges for periods of time until they get it.

In this case, seems pretty topical to just take the phone away entirely for a few days.

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His kid doesn't need a phone and doesn't need to be tracked to walk to school. Get over it.

Yup, came to say this.

Kids have learned to walk places on their own without maps or satnav or tracking for hundreds of thousands of years. I believe everyone would benefit from that continuing. We don't teach kids that the only way to do arithmetic is with a calculator... they learn first, then get a tool that can support what they already know. Why do we think we should do it differently here, and train this learned helplessness without a phone glued to your hand. I suspect a lot of this is projection of the parents' own discomfort with being away from their phone.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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> My son only gets Calls, Messages, Maps, Camera (so we can video call, but I've ruthlessly turned off selfies), Photos, and Music. Nothing else. I get that the internet is an addictive scary place with lots of content potentially dangerous to a young person. But why would you care if your child took a selfie? That seems pretty draconian.

I'm speculating that it's not the selfie; it's where that selfie ends up (or with whom).

OP apparently still hasn't learned that the kids today are taking selfies "blind" using the rear camera.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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This might be just the thing for my elderly mother. She's used an iPhone for many many years, but struggles lately with motor dexterity, vision, and a bit of cognitive challenge making phone usage difficult. Lots of things I'd like to just hide she doesn't need to get to (like Settings).

In the exact same boat with my mother in law at the moment. I was thinking of getting her one of those android for elderly phones but wanted to see if I could do something with her existing iphone first. At this point, anything that is recognizable is a plus so sticking with the iPhone will help there.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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When I was a kid my parents wouldn’t give me a cellphone. I wanted to call my girlfriend. Well, really, my girlfriend wanted me to call her. A lot. They didn’t give me one. I ended up finding a way to get my own through a more apathetic adult who I could pay cash to cover my bill (only an extra $10/month on a family plan). I certainly am not telling you to just cave in, but perhaps this story can be a reminder that t…

What age groups are we talking here, because if we're talking about a 7 year old, giving them unfettered screen time is probably bad parenting. However if we are talking about someone old enough to have gf/bf its probably also bad parenting to not let them develop their own self control around technology. They have to be an adult eventually.

I was a teenager, if that wasn’t clear. But I was more of the mindset of lending a story, I can’t say whether or not it’s relevant to the parent commenter’s scenario.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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>children have quickly found workarounds for such measures, such as asking friends to message them links, which can bypass restrictions when opened I was very surprised of this by my own kids find workarounds like l33t hackers. Apple's restrictions are a joke. The app store is full of things they can mess with. My daughter mentioned some way to get around screen time. I've ended up just taking the iPads away.

When my friend's kids were totally obsessed with League of Legends, I offered to set up a home firewall with increasingly difficult workarounds, so by the time they graduated high school they'd at least have a cybersecurity certificate and possibly a Ph.D in networking.

Adversarially train the children, rlai works on human brains too?

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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>children have quickly found workarounds for such measures, such as asking friends to message them links, which can bypass restrictions when opened I was very surprised of this by my own kids find workarounds like l33t hackers. Apple's restrictions are a joke. The app store is full of things they can mess with. My daughter mentioned some way to get around screen time. I've ended up just taking the iPads away.

Back in elementary school, I used Applescript in Hypercard to get around the restrictions on our school computers. Kids always find ways.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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post #28
post #4

>children have quickly found workarounds for such measures, such as asking friends to message them links, which can bypass restrictions when opened I was very surprised of this by my own kids find workarounds like l33t hackers. Apple's restrictions are a joke. The app store is full of things they can mess with. My daughter mentioned some way to get around screen time. I've ended up just taking the iPads away.

When my friend's kids were totally obsessed with League of Legends, I offered to set up a home firewall with increasingly difficult workarounds, so by the time they graduated high school they'd at least have a cybersecurity certificate and possibly a Ph.D in networking.

My childhood was filled with increasing escalations of restrictions to both the computer and the network, and my workarounds.

Excellent education

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