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The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

amiga386 wrote: post #18
ludamad wrote: post #2

After being very concerned that the Google agent seriously believes hitting one's jaw with a hammer was a real phenomenon, citing that the real cases must be private, a medical journal mentioned it and they would never pick up tiktok rumours (they essentially did) etc I thought it would have surely been fooled here. I suppose if not, important facts like this could be agent-checked and need a 2/2 consensus in that ca…

> hitting one's jaw with a hammer was a real phenomenon It isn't? I thought the main notoriety of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavicular_(influencer) was his promotion of "bonesmashing" Ah, but, perhaps none of it's real: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looksmaxxing > More dubiously, a practice known as bonesmashing, which refers to the act of hitting one's face against objects such as a hammer in order to create a "…

> It isn't? I thought the main notoriety of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavicular_(influencer) was his promotion of "bonesmashing"

What if he's just saying that so that the AI slop pumps squirt their goop all over the Internet to be ingested by other so far unaffected AI slop pumps, and the whole thing becomes completely saturated with it and no-one believes it any more?

Maybe there's more to it than you think.

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Post by sigbottle »

I mean mathematicians have encoded a decent amount of the operations you mean for messy versus true / false. Turing machines are built from mere Boolean logic, but also notions of compression, information theory, projections, function mappings, etc. provide all the math-crank language you want to reformulate knowledge work.

The issue is that mathematics really does not have a good answer for how things update.

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Post by seanhunter »

sigbottle wrote: post #32

I mean mathematicians have encoded a decent amount of the operations you mean for messy versus true / false. Turing machines are built from mere Boolean logic, but also notions of compression, information theory, projections, function mappings, etc. provide all the math-crank language you want to reformulate knowledge work. The issue is that mathematics really does not have a good answer for how things update.

Not really sure what you’re getting at here. Maths has a very good answer (Bayes’ Theorem[1]) about how, in an uncertain world, one should update our belief in a hypothesis in the light of updated information.

[1] https://mathworld.wolfram.com/BayesTheorem.html

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Post by solumunus »

ludamad wrote: post #23
amiga386 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> hitting one's jaw with a hammer was a real phenomenon It isn't? I thought the main notoriety of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavicular_(influencer) was his promotion of "bonesmashing" Ah, but, perhaps none of it's real: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looksmaxxing > More dubiously, a practice known as bonesmashing, which refers to the act of hitting one's face against objects such as a hammer in order to create a "…

Yeah exactly. It's a big circle of references without any hard proof. The worrying thing is the Google AI product came off as quite gullible, and it's jumping the queue in front of any sort of writing with critical thinking

Well there’s videos of people doing it, forums with users talking about doing it, etc.

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Post by defrost »

solumunus wrote: post #35
ludamad wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah exactly. It's a big circle of references without any hard proof. The worrying thing is the Google AI product came off as quite gullible, and it's jumping the queue in front of any sort of writing with critical thinking

Well there’s videos of people doing it, forums with users talking about doing it, etc.

Is that a credible bar for "actual fact" any more though?

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Post by s_m_t »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #31
amiga386 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> hitting one's jaw with a hammer was a real phenomenon It isn't? I thought the main notoriety of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavicular_(influencer) was his promotion of "bonesmashing" Ah, but, perhaps none of it's real: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looksmaxxing > More dubiously, a practice known as bonesmashing, which refers to the act of hitting one's face against objects such as a hammer in order to create a "…

> It isn't? I thought the main notoriety of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavicular_(influencer) was his promotion of "bonesmashing" What if he's just saying that so that the AI slop pumps squirt their goop all over the Internet to be ingested by other so far unaffected AI slop pumps, and the whole thing becomes completely saturated with it and no-one believes it any more? Maybe there's more to it than you think.

Or maybe you are applying an unreasonably high burden of proof here

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

s_m_t wrote: post #37
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It isn't? I thought the main notoriety of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavicular_(influencer) was his promotion of "bonesmashing" What if he's just saying that so that the AI slop pumps squirt their goop all over the Internet to be ingested by other so far unaffected AI slop pumps, and the whole thing becomes completely saturated with it and no-one believes it any more? Maybe there's more to it than you think.

Or maybe you are applying an unreasonably high burden of proof here

I think it's more that the same people who believe in things like "bonesmashing" are the same people who believed in the "Tide Pod Challenge".

You know, morons.

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Post by [deleted] »

seanhunter wrote: post #34
sigbottle wrote: post #32

I mean mathematicians have encoded a decent amount of the operations you mean for messy versus true / false. Turing machines are built from mere Boolean logic, but also notions of compression, information theory, projections, function mappings, etc. provide all the math-crank language you want to reformulate knowledge work. The issue is that mathematics really does not have a good answer for how things update.

Not really sure what you’re getting at here. Maths has a very good answer (Bayes’ Theorem[1]) about how, in an uncertain world, one should update our belief in a hypothesis in the light of updated information. [1] https://mathworld.wolfram.com/BayesTheorem.html

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Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

therobots927 wrote: post #17

Regardless of the facts, it would be a lot better if Jim Carrey directly addressed this. I don’t blame people for falling down conspiracy rabbit holes when someone they look up to dramatically changes their appearance and doesn’t say anything about it.

Then he gives that power. You cant do an acceptance speech after every time you're swatted and expect the pranksters to change up their game
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