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Re: Proof That the Unraveling of MAGA Has Begun [video][46 Mins]

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Post by krapp » Sun, Jul 05, 2026, 2:09 AM UTC

fragmede wrote: post #25

krapp wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What else would you call people who believe in Nazi conspiracy theories, court Nazi influencers, display Nazi symbols, parrot Nazi propaganda and spread Nazi memes? At some point you have to face facts about the nature of MAGA and what American conservatism is actually turning into.

The problem is that people tune out when you call them Nazis. If you want them to vote a different way, you've got to engay with them and have a talk with them. Yelling Nazi online and mic dropping isn't going to get kids out of ICE concentration camps. Neither is this comment, unfortunately.

The problem is you're blaming me for the actions of Nazis because pointing out that the Nazis are Nazis makes Nazis feel bad, rather than blaming the Nazis for being Nazis.

What exactly do you think they have to say that I need to hear? The specific reason why I deserve to be put against the wall with rest of the degenerates? No thank you.

Maybe you should blame them for putting kids in ICE concentration camps, and not me. I didn't do that, and I didn't vote for the people who did.

Re: Proof That the Unraveling of MAGA Has Begun [video][46 Mins]

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Post by krapp » Sun, Jul 05, 2026, 2:12 AM UTC

andsoitis wrote: post #30

krapp wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What else would you call people who believe in Nazi conspiracy theories, court Nazi influencers, display Nazi symbols, parrot Nazi propaganda and spread Nazi memes? At some point you have to face facts about the nature of MAGA and what American conservatism is actually turning into.

> who believe in Nazi conspiracy theories, court Nazi influencers, display Nazi symbols, parrot Nazi propaganda and spread Nazi memes Name three people who fit this profile that you would call a Nazi and are in a position of political or economic power in America.

Donald Trump, Pete Hegseth and Elon Musk.

Re: Proof That the Unraveling of MAGA Has Begun [video][46 Mins]

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jul 05, 2026, 5:56 AM UTC

krapp wrote: post #31

fragmede wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that people tune out when you call them Nazis. If you want them to vote a different way, you've got to engay with them and have a talk with them. Yelling Nazi online and mic dropping isn't going to get kids out of ICE concentration camps. Neither is this comment, unfortunately.

The problem is you're blaming me for the actions of Nazis because pointing out that the Nazis are Nazis makes Nazis feel bad, rather than blaming the Nazis for being Nazis. What exactly do you think they have to say that I need to hear? The specific reason why I deserve to be put against the wall with rest of the degenerates? No thank you. Maybe you should blame them for putting kids in ICE concentration camps, and n…

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Re: Proof That the Unraveling of MAGA Has Begun [video][46 Mins]

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Post by iririririr » Sun, Jul 05, 2026, 9:19 AM UTC

FrankWilhoit wrote: post #6

Not unravelling. Refocusing. The peasant ideology will always dominate, until it takes the species down with it.

right on. this video is typical banon unleashing an attack on carlson et al, as he did many times before and it always worked (i.e. everyone distanced from the target of the attacks and toed the line to avoid becoming a target)

Re: Proof That the Unraveling of MAGA Has Begun [video][46 Mins]

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Post by fragmede » Sun, Jul 05, 2026, 9:49 PM UTC

krapp wrote: post #31

fragmede wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that people tune out when you call them Nazis. If you want them to vote a different way, you've got to engay with them and have a talk with them. Yelling Nazi online and mic dropping isn't going to get kids out of ICE concentration camps. Neither is this comment, unfortunately.

The problem is you're blaming me for the actions of Nazis because pointing out that the Nazis are Nazis makes Nazis feel bad, rather than blaming the Nazis for being Nazis. What exactly do you think they have to say that I need to hear? The specific reason why I deserve to be put against the wall with rest of the degenerates? No thank you. Maybe you should blame them for putting kids in ICE concentration camps, and n…

I'm pointing out that hey, if you want people to vote your way, that calling someone a Nazi isn't going to convince them that you've got anything worth listening to.

Re: Proof That the Unraveling of MAGA Has Begun [video][46 Mins]

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Post by krapp » Sun, Jul 05, 2026, 10:05 PM UTC

fragmede wrote: post #35

krapp wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is you're blaming me for the actions of Nazis because pointing out that the Nazis are Nazis makes Nazis feel bad, rather than blaming the Nazis for being Nazis. What exactly do you think they have to say that I need to hear? The specific reason why I deserve to be put against the wall with rest of the degenerates? No thank you. Maybe you should blame them for putting kids in ICE concentration camps, and n…

I'm pointing out that hey, if you want people to vote your way, that calling someone a Nazi isn't going to convince them that you've got anything worth listening to.

And I'm pointing out that those Nazis were never going to listen to me or vote my way to begin with, because "my way" is antithetical to their worldview.

And Nazis is what they are. That's what you call fascists, white supremacist bigots and anti-semites. People who believe in race war and white genocide. That black people are genetically predisposed to low IQs and that Islam is a "religion of evil." That immigration from non-white countries is a plague and a threat to "western civilization." 14 words and all that.

There's nothing wrong with calling them what they are. Nazis don't deserve to live comfortable lives. They don't deserve to be treated like respectable people who simply have different but otherwise perfectly valid political views.