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The firefighting system of the Van der Heyden brothers in 17th century Amsterdam

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>Called a ‘snake’ (slang in Dutch) Disappointingly this isn't the origin of the English word slang. It seems to be of Viking origin.

”Viking” is not a language, it’s not even an ethnic group. The language you’re probably referring to is Old Norse.

It is (was) a mechanism for language introduction though, to be fair.

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>Called a ‘snake’ (slang in Dutch) Disappointingly this isn't the origin of the English word slang. It seems to be of Viking origin.

”Viking” is not a language, it’s not even an ethnic group. The language you’re probably referring to is Old Norse.

It's a culture.

If I said a word came from the hacker culture, is it relevant that hacker isn't a language and hackers aren't an ethnic group?

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>Called a ‘snake’ (slang in Dutch) Disappointingly this isn't the origin of the English word slang. It seems to be of Viking origin.

”Viking” is not a language, it’s not even an ethnic group. The language you’re probably referring to is Old Norse.

Colloquially, it is. See for example BBC’s recent headline “The Viking word hidden in the Declaration of American Independence” (https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20260625-the-ancient-word...)

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Why didn't they just build railings and fences so that horses don't fall into canals?

Canals were used for transport by boats/ships. My guess would be that railings would be a hindrance for loading/unloading.

Yeah, and keep in mind most of those houses where merchant houses where trade happened at the time so there probably was a lot of loading and unloading going on everywhere.

Although, given the current-day Dutch attitude to bike helmets I wouldn't be surprised if our ancestors were just being stubborn too, haha.

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Indeed, fatbike riders come in all colours. Though I have noticed that it is mainly transportation for the poor.

Not so much "poor" 'cause that is rare in the Netherlands. Having said that fatbikes are significantly less expensive than other electric bicycles so they are more popular with those who don't want to or can't spend as much money on an electric bike.

> those who don't want to (…) spend as much money

That would generally speaking be the average Dutch person, no?

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Canals were used for transport by boats/ships. My guess would be that railings would be a hindrance for loading/unloading.

Yeah, and keep in mind most of those houses where merchant houses where trade happened at the time so there probably was a lot of loading and unloading going on everywhere. Although, given the current-day Dutch attitude to bike helmets I wouldn't be surprised if our ancestors were just being stubborn too, haha.

Most likely the latter. Thousands of bikes, a hundred people, and more than thirty cars fall in to Amsterdam canals each year. "What to do if your car falls in the water" is part of driver's ed.

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About 200 years after the Van der Heyden brothers turned firefighting into municipal infrastructure, Amsterdam did the same for horses falling into canals. Paardenreddingstoestel means "horse rescue apparatus." Johan Christoph Sinck's own technical term was verplaatsbare hijsinrichting, "portable lifting apparatus." The machine became known as het toestel van Sinck ("Sinck's device"), with the nickname het zinktoeste…

That device's legacy lives on and is still in active use, though the main customers are now cows:

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2021/05/rotterdam-floating-farm-cri...

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Yeah, and keep in mind most of those houses where merchant houses where trade happened at the time so there probably was a lot of loading and unloading going on everywhere. Although, given the current-day Dutch attitude to bike helmets I wouldn't be surprised if our ancestors were just being stubborn too, haha.

Most likely the latter. Thousands of bikes, a hundred people, and more than thirty cars fall in to Amsterdam canals each year. "What to do if your car falls in the water" is part of driver's ed.

I mean the last bit is a pretty important skill regardless of safety features, especially in a country like the Netherlands.

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Most likely the latter. Thousands of bikes, a hundred people, and more than thirty cars fall in to Amsterdam canals each year. "What to do if your car falls in the water" is part of driver's ed.

I mean the last bit is a pretty important skill regardless of safety features, especially in a country like the Netherlands.

When learning kayaking you have to practice a water escape, I wish there was something similar for driver's ed in the Netherlands. Thinking about it is terrifying.

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About 200 years after the Van der Heyden brothers turned firefighting into municipal infrastructure, Amsterdam did the same for horses falling into canals. Paardenreddingstoestel means "horse rescue apparatus." Johan Christoph Sinck's own technical term was verplaatsbare hijsinrichting, "portable lifting apparatus." The machine became known as het toestel van Sinck ("Sinck's device"), with the nickname het zinktoeste…

That device's legacy lives on and is still in active use, though the main customers are now cows: https://www.dutchnews.nl/2021/05/rotterdam-floating-farm-cri...

>But the PvdD, which has long opposed the experiment, has started a social media campaign raising its concerns about animal welfare, after a second cow fell into the water and had to be rescued on King’s Day. It is believed that the animal was crossing from the floating platform to a small area of grassland for the cows on the dockside, and could not climb out.

Oh bummer, it's really hard to get a cow crane on Kings day, they are all tied up rescuing drunks from the canals. Surge pricing, owch!

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