Live data from Hacker News

Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

theregister.com

31–40 of 81 posts

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#31

Being overly suspicious of everyone is a terrible way to live. Maintenance should have the autonomy to do as they did here - and security correctly followed up. The right response should only be technical imo. A meeting room should not lead to this level of network access.

A better approach is to train everyone to be polite and helpfully walk the person to reception, who can arrange access.

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not my field, but at least at my work the network can somehow tell the difference between an authorized user and not. It is not simply using the MAC address. A guest device connected to the ethernet port in the conference room has the same access as a device connected to the guest wifi, a staff laptop has it's usual access.

Probably a RADIUS server setup. Basically staff machines get a certificate to present to the server and the server controls the network. So, if your machine does nothing, it's on the guest vlan and has limited access. If it presents a valid certificate that network port is reassigned to the staff vlan and you get full access. If someone leaves, you just revoke the certificate and they have guest access again. Not roc…

Still better to do that same thing (cert based auth) at the application layer instead of the network layer.

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#33
post #10

What always gets me about these red team attacks is the same thing that gets me about internal phishing test emails. My company sent an internal phishing test last week. Several people immediately reported it to a cybersecurity engineer, posted about it in Slack, saying they were surprised that such a sophisticated phishing attack was happening. I too was surprised - Google is usually much better about catching these…

I remember at some point Google disallowed more phishing attacks from red teams. Nothing new was being learned. They always work.

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#34
post #28
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expiring passwords are one of my biggest gripes, and I still see them everywhere

Expiring passwords and length limits. Why can't my password be a 5KB long? My password manager has no limits. Are people storing them in plain text in 2026?

I wouldn’t trust enterprise internet security boxes to not trip on such long text fields.

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#35
post #28
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expiring passwords are one of my biggest gripes, and I still see them everywhere

Expiring passwords and length limits. Why can't my password be a 5KB long? My password manager has no limits. Are people storing them in plain text in 2026?

And content limits. Why can't my password contain the % character? No special characters? What makes a character "special"? Why can't it contain emoji? So many password systems go to great lengths to remove potential entropy and randomness from passwords with their rules. The usual excuse is "blah blah blah legacy systems" which is not a good reason.

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#36
post #21
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Letting users pick their own passwords has always been a mistake. If passwords are needed, the system should choose them.

As a person with memory issues, this is a recipe for me writing a password down where somebody else can probably find it.

but post-its are vulnerable to the wrench attack!

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#37
post #21
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Letting users pick their own passwords has always been a mistake. If passwords are needed, the system should choose them.

As a person with memory issues, this is a recipe for me writing a password down where somebody else can probably find it.

If your machine or service is connected to the Internet, 631U)VN0Onl? written on a post-it note is generally going to be better than hunter2 not written down.

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#38
post #28
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expiring passwords are one of my biggest gripes, and I still see them everywhere

Expiring passwords and length limits. Why can't my password be a 5KB long? My password manager has no limits. Are people storing them in plain text in 2026?

I ran into a website for work that would let you create a long password, but silently truncate it to 12 characters before saving. Mind boggling.

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#39
post #38
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expiring passwords and length limits. Why can't my password be a 5KB long? My password manager has no limits. Are people storing them in plain text in 2026?

I ran into a website for work that would let you create a long password, but silently truncate it to 12 characters before saving. Mind boggling.

This is the best. Especially when the password is being autotyped by the pw manager and so you never see the truncation and now have a bad pw saved in your manager. Alongside a restrictive password policy with no ui explaining what the policy is.

Re: Hackers shoveled snow for company, were rewarded with network admin access

#40
post #38
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expiring passwords and length limits. Why can't my password be a 5KB long? My password manager has no limits. Are people storing them in plain text in 2026?

I ran into a website for work that would let you create a long password, but silently truncate it to 12 characters before saving. Mind boggling.

This happens on some HP printers too, the web interface lets you happily enter lengthy passwords, but doesn't bother telling you it truncated the entry at 16 or 12 characters.
Post reply on HN