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Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

#31
Many people are using the words 'buy' and 'bought' here. That in itself shows people regard the interaction they had with the company as a purchase, not just temporary access that can be removed unilaterally on a whim.

IMO If you bought something and someone takes that away, THAT is the actual theft, and you have limited options to alleviate your loss.

Yo ho me hearties...

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

#32
The core problem is licensing deals. And it's not just limited to movies, but games. Even the biggest juggernauts can't get out of this, with patches removing soundtracks [1].

A CD or DVD? That will hold the soundtrack for all of eternity (or at least as long as the physical medium survives), but for digitally bought games, it's ridiculous that content I paid for can just get silently patched away.

[1] https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/868277-grand-theft-auto...

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

#33
If you pay for this shit you are a fool. I dont even torrent shit sourced from steaming cus its so heavily compressed, not worth watching. People are giving real money to these services and they wont even provide enough bandwidth for decent quality.. Another point in favour of torrents, we get as much bandwidth as we need, no data centres required, just people sharing.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

#34
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Son your defrgument is... what? It's okay for them to rugpull as long as they are removing movies from a company which you don't support for... political reasons? Whew!

Political reasons =/= actual bad actors. The person you're replying to made a case that a person with outsized influence is creating media to stir resentment for attention and your conclusion is "political reasons". The word "political" always ends up meaning "don't talk about reactionaries throwing rocks"

You're moving the goalpost. I get that many people view Vincent Bolloré as a bad guy.

But him being a "far-right actor" or whatever that means doesn't excuse Sony's anti-consumer actions in the slightest, that's completely missing the point, and turning things political for no reason. And also a logical falacy.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

#37

The real issue here are the terms of the deal that allow Sony to revoke access to content at any time. If Sony only purchases a 5 year license to use a movie, then that expiration date should be communicated to the customer ahead of time. The idea that companies can take away games, movies, etc that you've paid for with the expectation you would have them forever is toxic for society.

Yes. If I have a 5-year lease on a building, I can sublease it to you for 5 years, but I can't offer to sell it to you.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

#38
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Political reasons =/= actual bad actors. The person you're replying to made a case that a person with outsized influence is creating media to stir resentment for attention and your conclusion is "political reasons". The word "political" always ends up meaning "don't talk about reactionaries throwing rocks"

You're moving the goalpost. I get that many people view Vincent Bolloré as a bad guy. But him being a "far-right actor" or whatever that means doesn't excuse Sony's anti-consumer actions in the slightest, that's completely missing the point, and turning things political for no reason. And also a logical falacy.

It indeed looks like consumers felling deceived when they thought they purchased something is a possible liability.

I'm sure the studio will watch the fallouts with amusement, waiting for them to come back

However, dealing with that kind of free market big business loving buster is still a huge business risk that requires management and negotiations. I can get it if Sony limits their business risks at some point, even if the severance initially costs them.

it would be so fun to be an insider to these negotiations

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can stop selling a product without taking it away from previous buyers.

it seems like it's not how the contract was written Also, on previous commercial disputes, these french studios and media outlets held an all or nothing stance, often asking to be completely removed from the offering of ISPs if they can't get the money they want. That's their way of getting what they want ; and as the ones who support this kind of move put it (so pretty much THEM) : you have the right to contract and…

Then Sony should never have offered these assets for sale, because they never had the right to sell them!
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