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A Farmer Arrested for Going 5 Seconds over His Time Limit at Data Center Meeting

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Re: A Farmer Arrested for Going 5 Seconds over His Time Limit at Data Center Meeting

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Avicebron wrote: post #29
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Every day I wake up and it feels we're moving closer to torches, pitchforks and guillotines The billionaires who are consolidating control over the media and social media would want nothing more.

You keep saying this, care to explain?

I feel like I’ve just said this once, but sure.

Plenty of prominent billionaires have openly aligned with authoritarian over fairly-elected government. The fact that the media and social media properties they control promote divisive, pitchfork-y content doesn’t strike me as a coincidence.

In a violent revolution, even if successful, based on historic pattern, those billionaires would concentrate economic and political power. It was the fact pattern in the French Revolution. It’s been true for every post-WWII revolution too. It will probably get more and more true and people and assets become more and more mobile. The only exceptions were the pre-WWII Communist revolutions; that pattern ended with jet travel.

Re: A Farmer Arrested for Going 5 Seconds over His Time Limit at Data Center Meeting

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Post by mistrial9 »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #25
philajan wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The local news includes the body cam video. Summary: The farmer was asked to leave by an officer. The farmer acknowledges the request and then walks to the head table to start handing the members documents. He was asked again to leave a couple of more times replying with “On what grounds” and then comes the “…flat and final ‘Arrest him’” that the article mentions. Some context was left out between the his three minut…

This reminds me of a kid in my college who got "tazed for not using his blinker", but what really happened is he got pulled over for not using his blinker, refused to give ID, refused to get out of the car to be arrested, and then fought the officer as he tried to pull him out of the car

really? that reminds me of the county prosecuting attorney who brings up unrelated stories of people who are obviously guilty whenever anyone questions their motivation and attention to the law

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Post by watwut »

bvcp wrote: post #27
thot_experiment wrote: post #3

No actual human fucking wants data centers. Every day I wake up and it feels we're moving closer to torches, pitchforks and guillotines.

Apart from water usage which can be solved by using recycled water or closed loop cooling i fail to see what all the hysteria is over. Communities dont own power production and if usage causes costs to increase then investment in more production will follow. The level of vitriol i see in all countries over data centers is looking more and more as a proxy against ai. You can really see how a terrawatt of ai compute in…

> Communities dont own power production and if usage causes costs to increase then investment in more production will follow.

Years of higher electricity price is good reason to be against. The communities gain nothing from those data centers, so it is a bad deal.

And yes, AI industry made an extraordinary achievment in making themselves hated. 10/10 success of their own marketing and PR.

Re: A Farmer Arrested for Going 5 Seconds over His Time Limit at Data Center Meeting

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Post by thot_experiment »

pokstad wrote: post #15
thot_experiment wrote: post #3

No actual human fucking wants data centers. Every day I wake up and it feels we're moving closer to torches, pitchforks and guillotines.

You’re posting on a website hosted in a data center. Lack of self awareness.

This website is hosted on a single server. I was being hyperbolic sure, but we don't need the number of data centers we have by a huge margin, the primary reason they exist is because building software that runs on people's computers is not compatible with greedmaxxing.

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Post by ceejayoz »

Humorist2290 wrote: post #12

From the Claremore City Council minutes [0] it does show the person mentioned in the article was a speaker, among a group of some 20 other members of the community. They also include the incredible claim Claremore Data Center will house the backbone of the internet and supports all the functions that occur on the internet. The minutes mention that many of the council members were accused of not caring, but they do no…

"This, Jen, is The Internet." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg

Re: A Farmer Arrested for Going 5 Seconds over His Time Limit at Data Center Meeting

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Post by thot_experiment »

bvcp wrote: post #27
thot_experiment wrote: post #3

No actual human fucking wants data centers. Every day I wake up and it feels we're moving closer to torches, pitchforks and guillotines.

Apart from water usage which can be solved by using recycled water or closed loop cooling i fail to see what all the hysteria is over. Communities dont own power production and if usage causes costs to increase then investment in more production will follow. The level of vitriol i see in all countries over data centers is looking more and more as a proxy against ai. You can really see how a terrawatt of ai compute in…

They are also noisy, polluting, and first and foremost we should endeavor to respect the will of the people in a democracy. Of course on some level it is a proxy against AI, but more importantly it's a proxy against the stratification of society. The problem is the gap between rich and poor.

Re: A Farmer Arrested for Going 5 Seconds over His Time Limit at Data Center Meeting

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Post by watwut »

alex0015 wrote: post #28
teeray wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The intersection of users and neighbors of AI data centers is probably much smaller than you think.

I can imagine a situation where this is true, like if it was used by some company to train an internal model or a model that never got released. But even assuming the data center was only used for AI model training, more or less everyone who uses any electronics now either uses generative AI directly themselves or uses services whose employees use generative AI at work to create those services. AI is extremely popula…

Per polls, ai is pretty hated. And the distaste is growing with growing use.

A lot of ai usage is forced and unwanted. People dont perceive it as source of greatness, but as source of slop, cheap low quality and enshittification and crutially, existential threat.

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Post by shimman »

psidebot wrote: post #16

The article definitely misrepresents what's in the video. He wasn't arrested for speaking 5 seconds over. He was standing right in front of the councilors shuffling papers back and forth for nearly a minute while the crowd was screaming and clapping. Officers asked him to leave, then told him to leave multiple times he categorically refused, all while public order was progressively deteriorating.

Oh I guess that makes it okay to arrest a person exercising their human rights. Wouldn't want to upset the "public order" (whose order are we talking about here because the public seems to be on the person's side).
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