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A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

lyra.horse

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Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

#31

My friend got shadowbanned for posting a youtube link, part of a interview with Sascha Riley (the one where the explains the thing with the tent peg): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84PHEMLab6g&t=2807s

You get shadowbanned for almost anything these days. It's not worth trying to use that site any more - I wrote it off as a lost cause, a playground for bots to talk to each other thinking they're talking to humans.

Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

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That is insanely bad borderline hostile UI.

Before we started doing it this way, the threads would fill up with far more off-topic comments ("why is this 3 day old post on the frontpage?" and so on). That was a much bigger problem. Relativizing the timestamps to reflect the re-up time was our attempt to address that. Overall, it has worked ok—that is, while it does still lead to offtopic confusion and complaints in the threads (boo) there is far less of it tha…

maybe just adding something like (revived) to the timestamp, or a [?] link that explains what happened to the date? If you want to avoid adding info to the ui it will inevitably create confusion

Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

#33
post #18
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is insanely bad borderline hostile UI.

Before we started doing it this way, the threads would fill up with far more off-topic comments ("why is this 3 day old post on the frontpage?" and so on). That was a much bigger problem. Relativizing the timestamps to reflect the re-up time was our attempt to address that. Overall, it has worked ok—that is, while it does still lead to offtopic confusion and complaints in the threads (boo) there is far less of it tha…

Just display the post's original timestamp and optionally a second-chance badge, instead of the timestamp it was second-chanced.

Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

#34

My friend got shadowbanned for posting a youtube link, part of a interview with Sascha Riley (the one where the explains the thing with the tent peg): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84PHEMLab6g&t=2807s

You get shadowbanned for almost anything these days. It's not worth trying to use that site any more - I wrote it off as a lost cause, a playground for bots to talk to each other thinking they're talking to humans.

The Russian bots on there trying to demoralize the UK are pretty hilarious too.

Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

#35

I cannot emphasize strongly enough just how deeply pervasive the spam is at Reddit. I'm a mod at the ecommerce subreddit, and I've only caught some of the AI-powered marketing operations because in one particular campaign that was making fictional claims about things I had direct knowledge about. Once I looked into the post history, and started to untangle the web of accounts that formed a self-supporting community o…

I'm sure you love Reddit's decision to allow users to hide their post history.

Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

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Is it still shadowbanned? If you go to reddit.com/appeal what does it say?

There's basically only one result you can get from an appeal which is "we have reviewed your account and we will not be lifting the suspension at this time." The appeals process exists to fill a checkbox that says there must be an appeals process, not to actually unban anyone.

I have seen multiple people have their shadowbans reversed after I recognized it had occurred and alerted them.

Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

#37
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before we started doing it this way, the threads would fill up with far more off-topic comments ("why is this 3 day old post on the frontpage?" and so on). That was a much bigger problem. Relativizing the timestamps to reflect the re-up time was our attempt to address that. Overall, it has worked ok—that is, while it does still lead to offtopic confusion and complaints in the threads (boo) there is far less of it tha…

I guarantee you've thought more about this than I have, but the first impression I had of the "second chance" pool was that it would essentially be a repost of the top-level post and not the comment threads. I think part of the reason people bring it up is because they see the same post PLUS the same comments with new timestamps and feel disoriented.

Oh, that isn't how I thought the pool worked at all. Invisibly rewriting dates feels very dishonest/disorienting!

Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

#38
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before we started doing it this way, the threads would fill up with far more off-topic comments ("why is this 3 day old post on the frontpage?" and so on). That was a much bigger problem. Relativizing the timestamps to reflect the re-up time was our attempt to address that. Overall, it has worked ok—that is, while it does still lead to offtopic confusion and complaints in the threads (boo) there is far less of it tha…

Just display the post's original timestamp and optionally a second-chance badge, instead of the timestamp it was second-chanced.

That's the status quo ante, which didn't work, plus a UI element which most people wouldn't understand. My guess is this would lead to even more offtopicness.

Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

#39

I cannot emphasize strongly enough just how deeply pervasive the spam is at Reddit. I'm a mod at the ecommerce subreddit, and I've only caught some of the AI-powered marketing operations because in one particular campaign that was making fictional claims about things I had direct knowledge about. Once I looked into the post history, and started to untangle the web of accounts that formed a self-supporting community o…

I'm sure you love Reddit's decision to allow users to hide their post history.

What I do love is that when you're a mod, that post history isn't necessarily hidden.

Re: A peek into Reddit's anti-spam internals

#40

I cannot emphasize strongly enough just how deeply pervasive the spam is at Reddit. I'm a mod at the ecommerce subreddit, and I've only caught some of the AI-powered marketing operations because in one particular campaign that was making fictional claims about things I had direct knowledge about. Once I looked into the post history, and started to untangle the web of accounts that formed a self-supporting community o…

I remember reading years ago about some corrupt mod in one of the image subreddits - he or his friend had started some image hosting site and had six different Reddit accounts that he used to upvote posts that used his site and downvote all other posts. It took people a long while to notice what he was up to.

And now automate and scale that with Claude/OpenAI/Gemini/whatever. It's insidious and terrible.
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