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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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+1 point to China!

In all seriousness, I can’t believe the AI firms are abiding by this peacefully. If I truly loved my company, and I felt we were on the bleeding edge of incredible, life changing products, why would I allow my company to be set up for failure by remaining somewhere that clearly wants control over the sovereignty.

The US gov sees these AI companies as bartering power, not as innovation. Wouldn’t you as a parent always want what’s best for your child, not for yourself?

It also feels like they can’t just relocate out of the country, as the administration will surely sanction anyone from business within the country again. These firms are so over inflated with evaluations and opex, they’ve dug themselves into a corner.

This is not to say regulation does not exist in any other country, but it’s clear now after what’s happening at Anthropic + OAI that the US gov has taken these companies hostage.

This is only further playing into the hands of open source and the outside models; the US gov is going to be to blame for when they all lose the race to low cost/free.

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post #30

Wow.. Okay so it's official now that the playbook is "we will try to prevent anyone who we don't like to use advanced tech". I understand if its military hardware and software, that's the property of the US government however this is the property of a private company.. Now seemingly being commandeered and issued at the will of the government, sounds very Russian/Chinese to me. Is there a precedent for this before in…

That was always the playbook

> Is there a precedent for this before in a democratic country ?

I'd argue US is not very democratic country given how many of what govt does goes against people's wishes. Same as UK

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#34
Remember how China turned its tech industry into a smoking ruin - make making them all submit to political priorities:

Ant Group: China halted Ant’s IPO and forced a restructuring

Alibaba: China fined and politically disciplined Alibaba

Didi: China punished Didi after its US listing by removing its apps, freezing users, forcing delisting

Tutoring platforms: banned profit from core school-subject tutoring.

Tencent gaming: restricted youth gaming froze approvals

NetEase and gaming companies: licence freeze stopped game companies from shipping games.

Meituan: fined Meituan and forced changes to its labour and platform model.

Huya/DouYu: blocked Tencent’s game-streaming merger, stopping commercial consolidation in a major entertainment market.

Boss Zhipin / Full Truck Alliance: froze new users after listging in the US

Crypto companbies: banned crypto trading and mining, forcing exchanges offshore.

Think it's not happening to the US?

tourism - people afraid to visit

tariffs - wrecking ball to all businesses

defence - why would anyone buy US weapons after Greenland and Canada

internet clouds - Greenland made Europe decide that the US clouds can't be trusted, now sovereign computing matters and MS/AWS/Google are feeling it

finance - no one trusts the US not to turn people into "non members of global society" by banning them from visa and credit card and banking systems

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#35
post #7

Open source is looking great right now

It’s looking very fragile from a legal point of view. Ownership of compute and software freedom will be next k the chopping block after control of networks that’s occurring at the moment.

Less so in EU than in US.

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#36
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thousands of American engineers all over the country (most of whom probably aren't on Hacker News) work with ITAR/EAR-regulated software and hardware every single day: these regulations are really not difficult to abide if you're a citizen.

And what about the rest of the world? I can't imagine US partners will abide this for long.

They get the dual-use scraps or whatever China is hawking.

Being told "no" is never fun, but the regulations are not hard to comply with (despite what Anthropic might have you believe.)

> I can't imagine US partners will abide this for long.

What are they going to do? Start their own Anthropic? Go for it. Why is every other country in the world entitled to American technology by default?

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#37
post #30

Wow.. Okay so it's official now that the playbook is "we will try to prevent anyone who we don't like to use advanced tech". I understand if its military hardware and software, that's the property of the US government however this is the property of a private company.. Now seemingly being commandeered and issued at the will of the government, sounds very Russian/Chinese to me. Is there a precedent for this before in…

That was always the playbook > Is there a precedent for this before in a democratic country ? I'd argue US is not very democratic country given how many of what govt does goes against people's wishes. Same as UK

> I'd argue US is not very democratic country given how many of what govt does goes against people's wishes. Same as UK

That could be argued but the core principle is freedom of commerce and private companies get a lot of runway. This seems completely counter to tha.

Re: U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

#38

Open source is looking great right now

It's the year of the open source AI model is the new 'It's the year of the Linux Desktop'. It's not and never will be for 90% of people

GLM 5.2 is competitive with Opus 4.6.

Re: U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

#40
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s looking very fragile from a legal point of view. Ownership of compute and software freedom will be next k the chopping block after control of networks that’s occurring at the moment.

Less so in EU than in US.

I would not be so confident, though I certainly hope!
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