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So, where is this commercially viable visual programming language you claimed exists?
...Their name might be descriptive...
Mixing Visual and Textual Code
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So, where is this commercially viable visual programming language you claimed exists?
You are bringing the idea that a specific programming language must be made to do visual programming, not me. That is the opposite of what I think!! If your solution to global problems is for everyone in the world to adopt Hybrid Clojure Script as their programming language, you don't really have an economically viable solution.
> I think they may fall over in surprise when they realize that this technology become commercially viable while they were busy writing this academic paper...
"this technology" is an actual concrete language that mixes text and graphics. Not a version control system or an extensible parser framework or whatever it is that you have.
Maybe one day you will build an actual language that mixes text and graphics but unless you can show me a screenshot of that it seems like a dick move to say that they've wasted their time because you've already got a commercially viable version, when actually you haven't at all.
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#34Oh dear. I think they may fall over in surprise when they realize that this technology become commercially viable while they were busy writing this academic paper...
I mean visual programming is standard in game development. Did not get traction in the rest of the dev community. Now it does not matter anyways. We are not reading/ writing code anymore. Just specifying it and testing it.
So I feel like your last sentence doesn't really track - yes they are like you , just telling specifications to the machine, but they can struggle for hours trying to get those specific instructions right because they can't understand what their systems are doing.
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...Their name might be descriptive...
I certainly invite people to disrespect me for superficial reasons, and that is on purpose. The people who actually judge me on my merit I find to be much more worth my time.
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I was going to mention holyC here, but I don't think it is the same thing. holyC lets you embed images etc in the code, but those images don't become part of the logic. This paper is talking about mixing graphical programming languages with textual ones (like a file with both scratch blocks and c code in)
Yeah I'm not talking about that. I'm thinking more like "a C program is just a parse tree, so why couldn't a visual tool help you visualize or rearrange the parse tree?" This academic paper assumes two largely unmixed disciplines just barely kissing each other. I see a complete blending coming that will melt the boundaries between textual and visual programming. Once you start thinking like this, you stop seeing sema…
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#37The language was just python and the IDE swapped out certain functions' arguments with the image and targets within the image that the code referred to. It also had a bunch of built-in functionality that let you manipulate the images and targets (the little red crosses in that screenshot) directly within the IDE instead of having to edit the underlying python code.
Looks like it has a successor called Oculix but I know nothing about that.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are bringing the idea that a specific programming language must be made to do visual programming, not me. That is the opposite of what I think!! If your solution to global problems is for everyone in the world to adopt Hybrid Clojure Script as their programming language, you don't really have an economically viable solution.
Your original comment was: > I think they may fall over in surprise when they realize that this technology become commercially viable while they were busy writing this academic paper... "this technology" is an actual concrete language that mixes text and graphics. Not a version control system or an extensible parser framework or whatever it is that you have. Maybe one day you will build an actual language that mixes…
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#39SikuliX was a UI automation tool from over a decade ago with an IDE that looked similar to their screenshots: https://avleonov.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/script_windo... The language was just python and the IDE swapped out certain functions' arguments with the image and targets within the image that the code referred to. It also had a bunch of built-in functionality that let you manipulate the images and targets…