Even so, it still seems to be a small effect. The author mentions some studies looking at sunlight vs all cause mortality. These, and more recent studies [1] found much higher reductions in all cause mortality from sunlight exposure, of about 30%. It's thought that other factors may be behind this, such as NO production in the skin in response to UV [2]. [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32918215/ [2] https://karge…
The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
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Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#32I suspect that blood vitamin D is mainly a marker for how much outdoor exercise people are getting, and that it is the exercise rather than the D which is causal.
My life changed after I got tested for vit D and started talking supplements. I was severely deficient. I am now sufficient and everything changed for me.
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#33I suspect that blood vitamin D is mainly a marker for how much outdoor exercise people are getting, and that it is the exercise rather than the D which is causal.
People who are drawing blood and trying to find some correlation between vitamin presence and health at this point are just practicing divination. The fact that it can be published in a scientific journal without any sort of RCT to back it up is palpably unscientific.
The customers of these studies are the supplement companies looking for another product to sell.
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#34Your body needs vitamins in order to form complex aminos to operate. But your body only needs to make so many of them - especially if you are an adult, not pregnant, or not suffering from a disease of some sort. The very premise that loading up your body with "excess" vitamins beyond what you need is already pretty fraught. Building a house without enough lumber can lead to long term deficiency - but loading up a con…
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#35I suspect that blood vitamin D is mainly a marker for how much outdoor exercise people are getting, and that it is the exercise rather than the D which is causal.
My life changed after I got tested for vit D and started talking supplements. I was severely deficient. I am now sufficient and everything changed for me.
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#36Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#37Your body needs vitamins in order to form complex aminos to operate. But your body only needs to make so many of them - especially if you are an adult, not pregnant, or not suffering from a disease of some sort. The very premise that loading up your body with "excess" vitamins beyond what you need is already pretty fraught. Building a house without enough lumber can lead to long term deficiency - but loading up a con…
Vitamin D deficiency entered the chat. It's a relatively common issue in many countries.
There's a lot of unknowingly deficient people out there who get benefits from supplements. But the benefits are limited by the upper bound of the deficiency.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
On a slight tangent, if people are unaware, you can pay for and get just about any lab test without a prescription in the United States.
This is how I found my 10k IU of vitamin D a day, based on modern recommendations for indoor workers, that I modulate based on how much I'm outdoors, was perfectly on the mark!
Make sure you test after a very long time, such as a year of steady supplementation. A lot of the excess Vitamin D cases were taking less than 10K IU daily.
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#39This is great. I wonder if there's something like a patreon model where we could sponsor similar deep dives on other supplements? For example, I've been supplementing with nicotinamide riboside for a few years now. I stop occasionally and when I do stiff and sore hands and knees return and I get more headaches. I'd love to know if I'm deluding myself (placebo effect?) or there's good science that backs up my experien…
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#40>Because physical exams are performed in mobile vans in NHANES, data could not be collected in northern latitudes during the winter; instead data were collected in northern latitudes during summer and in southern latitudes in winter. To address this season-latitude aspect of the NHANES design, we stratified the sample into two seasonal subpopulations (winter/lower latitude and summer/higher latitude) before examining vitamin D status.
Yeah, I'm not surprised that the rates for vitamin D deficiency were low.
>Less than 1% of the winter/lower latitude subpopulation had vitamin D deficiency (25-OHD
and the more northern latitude in summer:
>With the exception of elderly women, prevalence rates of vitamin D insufficiency were lower in the summer/higher latitude subpopulation (
Now imagine if you lived in northern Europe around the 60th parallel, where the sun doesn't get high enough in winter to produce vitamin D.