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Krea 2: SOTA open-weights 12B image model

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Re: Krea 2: SOTA open-weights 12B image model

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Did anyone generate a pelican riding a bicycle? I tried two of the Krea 2 models in LM Studio, but loading the downloaded models errored out. (Maybe I'm doing it wrong, since it's an image model.) Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47800562

here u go: https://ibb.co/XfZSJKyz you can try it right away at krea.ai/image (warning: you need to sign-up)

Thanks, those are pretty good!

Re: Krea 2: SOTA open-weights 12B image model

#32
post #30

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here u go: https://ibb.co/XfZSJKyz you can try it right away at krea.ai/image (warning: you need to sign-up)

Thanks, those are pretty good!

I absolutely dislike this pelican test but the challenge is using SVG to create it.

Re: Krea 2: SOTA open-weights 12B image model

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I appreciate the skepticism but we find internally that this model is used more than Nano Banana for many cases like moodboarding (also, 4x cheaper than NBP never hurts). Agentic workflows are compatible with Krea 2 so I’m not sure I follow there. If you are talking about an edit model, that’s coming too. Also, we are on par with them in t2i benchmarks, check the artificial analysis link I posted in my top comment. A…

"Compatible" is one thing - "built for" is a different beast. The difference can be like that between Images 1.0 and Images 2.0 - the sheer leap in compositional capabilities was staggering. "Edit model" is a part of it, yes. So is style transfer. But less as an endpoint and more of a subset of what advanced I2I enables. "Re-train to understand your brand" is a fine marketing pitch, but in practical terms, it's hard…

"it's hard to justify burning a LoRA for most uses" -> Not really, it's literally cheaper on Krea than using ChatGPT Images; NBP and GPT-Images 2.0 are quite expensive, you'd be surprised. LoRAs are one of our most stickiest features (this doesn't mean they are intuitive; this just means that customers who use it, suddenly are retained way more because of how much better their images become). But yeah, anything out there doesn't offer a nice training UIs like Krea where you can just drag-and-drop a moodboard and get a LoRA in a few minutes. It literally takes only a few minutes on Krea; definitely not "N hours for GPUs to churn".

Learn more here: https://www.krea.ai/blog/krea-2-lora-training.

Re: Krea 2: SOTA open-weights 12B image model

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Re: Krea 2: SOTA open-weights 12B image model

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Good to have more open weight models, and I really appreciate the in-depth write-up. I also like the "keep the manifold wide" approach of trying to make a model capable of many styles as opposed to getting it "dialed in" for a dozen of style presets. But it does feel very much like "fighting the past war" - now that advanced "image-to-image"/"agentic composition" models like Nano Banana 2 or Images 2.0 are out there…

I appreciate the skepticism but we find internally that this model is used more than Nano Banana for many cases like moodboarding (also, 4x cheaper than NBP never hurts). Agentic workflows are compatible with Krea 2 so I’m not sure I follow there. If you are talking about an edit model, that’s coming too. Also, we are on par with them in t2i benchmarks, check the artificial analysis link I posted in my top comment. A…

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Re: Krea 2: SOTA open-weights 12B image model

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Results are in! This is a really impressive showing especially given how fast the Turbo model at 8 steps. The only locally hostable model that managed to outperform it was Ideogram 4 which is significantly slower (think minutes vs seconds).

It did fall to the usual “model killers”: the nine-pointed star, Count Rugen, the overcrowded flat Earth. But overall, it really punched above its weight class, scoring the highest among locally hostable models and coming in just below Ideogram 4 passing 6 of the 15 tests.

Great job Krea team!

GenAI link to compare locally hostable models only:

https://genai-showdown.specr.net/?models=fd,hd,kd,qi,f2d,zt,...

Re: Krea 2: SOTA open-weights 12B image model

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post #26

Hi HN, we're releasing weights for our latest text to image model and publishing this writeup on how we trained it in quite a bit of depth. I hope there is something in the report for everyone, we included a fair bit on the actual training and data infrastructure usually not written about much, that I think will be interesting to people here. There's more that didn't fit, happy to answer questions!

What is Krea's approach to content such as pornography and gore? It's been frustrating to see all of the leading models take a very hard line on excluding vice content, even when it is perfectly legal, in the name of safety.

> What is Krea's approach to content such as pornography and gore?

You mean whether it's censored? Of course it is. They even say so themselves[1]:

> The open source version needed to go through some alignment training so there might be some inconsistencies between closed / open version.

The "alignment training" is pretty much a code word for censorship/lobotomy, because unlike the API version they can't slap on a safe/unsafe classifier on an uncensored model. Of course, just to be clear: I don't blame. If they don't do this then the next post we'd see is them being in hot water. (Remember what happened with Grok? That's what happens when you don't take a hard line here.)

[1] -- https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1udnm0a/we...

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