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Madison Square Garden compiled a list of activists against facial recognition

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Re: Madison Square Garden compiled a list of activists against facial recognition

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Crazy to see this attempt to be normalized here. No. No, this is not normal.

People are making a concerted effort to force your business to do something, and you don't want to know their names or how much influence they actually have?

Actually, they're making an effort to force your business to not do something.

Re: Madison Square Garden compiled a list of activists against facial recognition

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i don’t think anyone is claiming it is illegal

It’s billionaire people pushing the bounds of their enclosure, Jurassic Park style. The similar behavior in the west coast are the people who create various hoops to deny the public access to the shore. NYC grants significant concessions to developers in exchange for public access. It’s important to overreact and push back to every incursion into the public sphere as every incremental pushback of public benefit is cu…

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Re: Madison Square Garden compiled a list of activists against facial recognition

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> This seems like a pretty normal thing to do. That is NOT normal.

Well you'd like to think that. I agree it shouldn't be normal.

Half the tech industry thinks its fine though -- at least as long as it's not the government doing it.

Re: Madison Square Garden compiled a list of activists against facial recognition

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> This seems like a pretty normal thing to do sorry to the rest of the esteemed hn community for the low-effort reply, but... gross.

We have a document detailing our competitors. So I guess I have to ask... Am I normal?

if you attach some kind of socially hostile mandate to that list, and accumulated resources to actuate that mandate.

its one level of unhealthy to point at a demographic and say, "them they the source of the problems" , thats like archie bunker.

going further, individual names and dox, curated summarized to a quick read list, gathering weapons building a cell, thats historically malignant.

Re: Madison Square Garden compiled a list of activists against facial recognition

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In NYC, you can trespass anyone from a private business at any time and for no reason at all. NY Penal Law § 140.00 says a person in premises open to the public is there with license/privilege unless they defy a lawful order not to enter or remain, personally communicated by the owner or another authorized person. So, in plain English: “You have to leave. You are not allowed back.” The owner does not need to say: “Yo…

Ownership's behavior is entirely too extreme and frequently crosses the line.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/knicks-owner-extreme-measu...

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/msg-facial-reco...

Re: Madison Square Garden compiled a list of activists against facial recognition

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Debating this specific dossier ignores the larger issue, IMO: > MSG has deployed facial recognition technology since 2018 to identify people entering the venue. MSG’s facial recognition systems have been used to block entry to the stadium for all sorts of people. The list includes lawyers who work at law firms in litigation with MSG, even if they are not part of the litigation themselves; and potentially a man who on…

> MSG management is not only misusing facial recognition data

This is making a huge assumption that the goal was ever safety.

Re: Madison Square Garden compiled a list of activists against facial recognition

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We have a document detailing our competitors. So I guess I have to ask... Am I normal?

when i'm doing large presentations to prospective clients my company gives me what they call a "look book". This is a deck with information about every person in the audience all the way down to personality traits, triggering words/phrases, and negotiating style. I think it's pretty normal.

Are the potential clients aware that you have this? Are you willing to say who you are or who your company is or would that be embarrassing? I would absolutely not be your client.
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