Seems kinda underwhelming considering they raised like $400M.
400m is the new 400k!
Just look at the other company evaluations and how much they raised vs what they delivered
Sakana Fugu
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#32Beta user: they piloted OpenRouter fusion before it was seen as the viable step. Everyone's understood for months now that having different models check each other is the best path forward.
This gets you that in a nice neat package, without the underlying tinkering mechanics.
If (big iff) the usage mechanics work out, then this is actually a really good anti-big-model strategy.
They'll be incentivized for your success, not token-maximizing for their investors.
The team is super smart too. What's not to like?
Wishing them the best on launch.
Re: Sakana Fugu
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe. But for now it's fascinating how $200/month has kind of become a normal tier. It's similar to how AirPods normalised all of us having $300+ headphones. All of us would have scoffed at the idea a decade ago.
Many people here spent a lot more than $300 on headphones long before AirPods appeared.
I had a really nice Sennheiser before that, too. But now you hop on the subway and everybody sports one.
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#34You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not. While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".
Happy user here, pairing it with Composer 2.5, with Fugu Ultra as advisor and Fugur as planner. For scope/architecture it’s on par with useful Fable-style orchestration than one chat thread.
I've been shipping production on archive.tw with Fugu Ultra in /advisor on oh-my-pi.
Advisor doesn’t slow the loop if the driver stays fast. Worth it if your harness can split advisor from worker.
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#35You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not. While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".
Or use openrouter and switch to model you want to use..(i think so)
Re: Sakana Fugu
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe. But for now it's fascinating how $200/month has kind of become a normal tier. It's similar to how AirPods normalised all of us having $300+ headphones. All of us would have scoffed at the idea a decade ago.
Many people here spent a lot more than $300 on headphones long before AirPods appeared.
Those were hobbyists, audiophiles, professionals, artists (recording, performing, etc.).
They are talking about a much larger group of people.
Re: Sakana Fugu
#37Beta user: they piloted OpenRouter fusion before it was seen as the viable step. Everyone's understood for months now that having different models check each other is the best path forward. This gets you that in a nice neat package, without the underlying tinkering mechanics. If (big iff) the usage mechanics work out, then this is actually a really good anti-big-model strategy. They'll be incentivized for your succes…
if you've used codex or claude, how do the usage limits on fugu feel compared to the pro plans on either? honestly wouldn't mind subscribing to this if it's as generous as what codex is giving me monthly, which seems unrealistic.
Re: Sakana Fugu
#38You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not. While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".
Or use openrouter and switch to model you want to use..(i think so)
Or TrustedRouter if you want privacy and open source
Re: Sakana Fugu
#39Beta user: they piloted OpenRouter fusion before it was seen as the viable step. Everyone's understood for months now that having different models check each other is the best path forward. This gets you that in a nice neat package, without the underlying tinkering mechanics. If (big iff) the usage mechanics work out, then this is actually a really good anti-big-model strategy. They'll be incentivized for your succes…
if you've used codex or claude, how do the usage limits on fugu feel compared to the pro plans on either? honestly wouldn't mind subscribing to this if it's as generous as what codex is giving me monthly, which seems unrealistic.
Hard to say - since I used it in Beta with free credits, where the usage felt more 'Opus' than 'ChatGPT' but more efficient token wise. Switching models every time is annoying.
But their paid plans I'm not sure yet - planning to subscribe and can let you know.
Almost no chance it will be as generous as OpenAI though. They just don't have the money :-)
Re: Sakana Fugu
#40You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not. While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".
at this point I might just try Neuralwatt and see how much request I can get with GLM5.2. I've read a lot of reviews that its very cheap to run using Neuralwatt cloud