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Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by qsera »

rschiavone wrote: post #7
varjag wrote: post #2

It's bittersweet, isn't it. Software is solved, but at a terrible cost.

How is it solved? LLMs cannot think new things, they can only cobble something together if it's in their training set.

It does not think at all. It vibes based on its training and any additional bolted on constraints. It is a quite simple automation that only works by huge amount of existing data.

Modern man has grown quite dumb. He only seems to be able to "invent" by massive scaling things that are decades or centuries old..

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Post by kinematikk »

account42 wrote: post #27
armcat wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That movie has aged incredibly well!

Resolution-wise it hasn't due to the extensive use of early CGI.

What do you mean? The cgi is great, even today. They obviously put a lot of work and effort into it

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Post by zweifuss »

bartvk wrote: post #4

The blog mentions a Graphing Calculator. Not sure if it shares code, but macOS still ships with an app to draw graphs, Grapher.app

The app on your Mac today isn't a rewrite of the legendary Mac OS 7.2.1 Graphing Calculator, but an acquired app based on Curvus Pro introduced in OSX Tiger.

The first one has a legendary backstory. 2 devs snuck into Apple after their project was canceled: https://www.pacifict.com/Story/

Curvus Pro: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/curvus-pro

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by skydhash »

jorisw wrote: post #23
varjag wrote: post #2

It's bittersweet, isn't it. Software is solved, but at a terrible cost.

Software isn't solved. 'Coding' is, according to the people of Claude. Coding (programming) is a tedious and expensive part of software engineering. There's other parts AI isn't doing, such as understanding and refining requirements, and delivery + accountability.

> Coding (programming) is a tedious and expensive part of software engineering.

Why is that? Coding, for me, is kinda relaxing, and the fun part of developing software. Gathering requirements, especially in a corporate settings, is the tedious part and the most time consuming.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by alecco »

varjag wrote: post #8
alecco wrote: post #5

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Why is it bittersweet? Carpenters probably didn't cry when their tools improved. It will be bittersweet when there's no human needed at the wheel but IMHO we are far, far from that. These models/agents are just mimicking human text and need guidance because they often get lost or stuck.

Carpenters would have cried if all their work was reduced to shoving the logs into CNC machines. Yes there is still human input but it requires comparatively no skill or depth and it gets easier by the month. If I were lobotimized today I'd still be able to function as half-assed architect to AIs anyway. When was the last time you read fighting distractions/getting "in the zone"/complaint about open space offices thr…

But it's not like "shoving the logs into CNC machines". You have to understand what they are doing and point them into the right direction. LLMs very often lack common sense once you move out of easy things.

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Post by carra »

account42 wrote: post #27
armcat wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That movie has aged incredibly well!

Resolution-wise it hasn't due to the extensive use of early CGI.

Careful! Some of the scenes you would think as CGI are actually using practical effects. Even a couple of scenes with liquid metal on screen were using models.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by skydhash »

varjag wrote: post #20
embedding-shape wrote: post #16

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> Yes there is still human input but it requires comparatively no skill or depth and it gets easier by the month. If I were lobotimized today I'd still be able to function as half-assed architect to AIs anyway. Hard doubt, software engineering is so much more than just literal coding and typing. At least for many of us, the coding/typing part is the easy stuff, everything around that is where the actual engineering h…

Honestly conflating coding with typing tells me your idea of coding is very different to what I used to do.

Coding is literally writing code, instructions in plain text that control the behavior of computer. That implies knowing which instructions to write.

But creating software is much more than that. Just like writing an essay involves more than just typing words. Other activities include: Architecture, Requirements analysis, Debugging, Testing, Integration,…

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by iamacyborg »

account42 wrote: post #27
armcat wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That movie has aged incredibly well!

Resolution-wise it hasn't due to the extensive use of early CGI.

The ILM documentary on Disney+ talks about the techniques on that movie, super interesting documentary in general.
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