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SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Post by toofy »

scott01 wrote: post #7
toofy wrote: post #6

i’d love to see blackmagic jump in with steamos as their main distro. i think they build for rockyos currently but… if they jump to building davinci resolve (and its new lightroom style photo editing) on steamos rather than rocky.. this would be pretty powerful combine the insane wonders steamos is doing for gaming on linux and add davinci, that would really open up the linux landscape for a ton more people. i’m curr…

I believe the tools like Resolve are built around VFX reference platform specs. I doubt anyone will standardise on the basis of a rolling distro where you can’t pin glibc version. https://vfxplatform.com

steamos is not a rolling release. yes, it’s built on arch, but they halt with snapshots and do testing and their own patches before they roll out updates.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Post by bravetraveler »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #5

That line about update arch base means it is shipping only a year old packages and not 1.5 year old ones.

So, depending where you look, more current than $FAVORITE_LTS... with a distribution found on mass-market gaming devices intended for precisely three wrappers. Why do you, presumably a normal user, even care about the packages? Eesh.

As long as Valve provides more snapshot updates in the next six months, I don't see the problem. The ~~TiVo~~ toy is maintaining currency.

I'll concede this might be annoying for the subset that chooses to use a Steam Machine as a server or development workspace, once the product releases. My condolences to this imaginary and small group. They'll be shocked to find immutability, too.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Post by koolala »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #22
koolala wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I installed Antigravity with Codex in Distrobox Ubuntu. The Agents happily use sudo without care that it is a container. It's great when I run random scripts from the web that I don't even know how to uninstall and never worry about gunking up the main system.

It might be fine for just avoiding clutter, but be warned that distrobox defaults to very weak separation between container and host (e.g. default mounting your real home into the container). Good organizational tool, bad sandbox. (This is not a fault, just a matter of what the tool is optimized to help you do.)

I like that as a feature because I can use it like a normal root system. I have a pretty easy time seeing what goes in my home folder. It isn't esoteric to explore like system folders. If I had something I needed to keep private from Distrobox I could put it in my SD Card since it isn't mounted in the home folder on SteamOS and is in /run/media. You could also install QEMU in Distrobox or the virt-manager flatpak for a full sandbox.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Post by nopcode »

pidgeon_lover wrote: post #29
gabegm wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use CachyOS or Bazzite instead.

Can those be used without logging in online to Steam?

Yes, they are Arch and Fedora Atomic variants respectively and don't require any accounts or corporate affiliation.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Post by jon-wood »

pidgeon_lover wrote: post #29
gabegm wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use CachyOS or Bazzite instead.

Can those be used without logging in online to Steam?

Only if you don't want to use Steam. I'm not really sure what point you think you're making here by constantly asking whether you can use SteamOS without logging in to Steam. You can however install literally anything you like on a Steam Deck.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Post by CodesInChaos »

pidgeon_lover wrote: post #27

Can it be used without logging in online to Steam?

From my experience with the steam deck:

If you're already logged in, you can use it online. But if it decides to log you out, and you're offline, then you're out of luck.

Older versions allowed you to switch to desktop mode without logging in (with broken on screen keyboard, since that's only available once you log into steam), but that option is missing in newer versions.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Post by koolala »

CodesInChaos wrote: post #37
pidgeon_lover wrote: post #27

Can it be used without logging in online to Steam?

From my experience with the steam deck: If you're already logged in, you can use it online. But if it decides to log you out, and you're offline, then you're out of luck. Older versions allowed you to switch to desktop mode without logging in (with broken on screen keyboard, since that's only available once you log into steam), but that option is missing in newer versions.

They changed its location and it was bugged for an update. You go to Settings > System and then enable Show Switch to Desktop Mode.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Post by koolala »

jon-wood wrote: post #36
pidgeon_lover wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can those be used without logging in online to Steam?

Only if you don't want to use Steam. I'm not really sure what point you think you're making here by constantly asking whether you can use SteamOS without logging in to Steam. You can however install literally anything you like on a Steam Deck.

It's nice on something like Steam Frame where it's hard to install a new OS. Forcing a log-in like Windows is evil and sucks when you don't have internet.
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