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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by arcanemachiner »

Cider9986 wrote: post #5
tasty_freeze wrote: post #2

I've been using Graphene on my Pixel 7a for about a year and I'm happy I made the switch. For sure it is a bit rougher than using Google's OS, but not enough to make me regret it. The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, and (2) the texting app doesn't just attach reaction emojis to a message -- it quotes the whole message…

> The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, GrapheneOS is compatible with the vast , vast majority of Android apps, so you can use GBoard or FUTO keyboard (which I recently switched to from GBoard), to get the ideal experience. FUTO recently revamped their swipe to type model and it's now more accurate than GBoard in their…

There's also Heliboard, which has a swipe-type option

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by jordand »

sivers wrote: post #20
jordand wrote: post #12

I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

Ha! Me too! Exact same. Bought a Pixel 10. Intended to do the default Android for a while. But it was filled with ads for “Wicked” which had me looking at my phone with a sneer on my face I couldn't erase - as if someone had smeared feces all over it and threw it on my bed. So I jumped straight to GrapheneOS, which was way easier and less extreme than I had been warned. So beautifully minimal, with no crap. Now my ph…

We took control, we're keeping control

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by tasty_freeze »

Cider9986 wrote: post #5
tasty_freeze wrote: post #2

I've been using Graphene on my Pixel 7a for about a year and I'm happy I made the switch. For sure it is a bit rougher than using Google's OS, but not enough to make me regret it. The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, and (2) the texting app doesn't just attach reaction emojis to a message -- it quotes the whole message…

> The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, GrapheneOS is compatible with the vast , vast majority of Android apps, so you can use GBoard or FUTO keyboard (which I recently switched to from GBoard), to get the ideal experience. FUTO recently revamped their swipe to type model and it's now more accurate than GBoard in their…

Thanks for your thoughts. I use FUTO voice usually, but there are situations where typing out a short message is better -- eg, in a restaurant or doctor's office or someplace where voice input might bother other people.

I've found graphene's keyboard far more error-prone than the stock android keyboard, but I also don't care to learn swipe to type.

The feature I'm missing is simply that rubbing my finger left or right on the spacebar in text mode causes the cursor insertion point to move left or right on in the text I'm entering. It makes it sooo much easier to correct typos.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by garciansmith »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #2

I've been using Graphene on my Pixel 7a for about a year and I'm happy I made the switch. For sure it is a bit rougher than using Google's OS, but not enough to make me regret it. The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, and (2) the texting app doesn't just attach reaction emojis to a message -- it quotes the whole message…

Other people have noted that you can switch out the keyboard and SMS app (which I did).

My single (minor) issue with GrapheneOS is the adaptive screen brightness. On the stock Android OS on a Pixel I'd mess around with the sliders for a week or two on a new phone and then it learned what I liked. Now it has a few set values, one of which is always too dim for me in darker conditions so I have to mess with the slider each and every time. I don't believe there's a way of fixing that.

Other than that I'm glad I switched, especially when I read about new "features" they add that I know I'd hate.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS »

lifeisgood99 wrote: post #21

What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.

I have these cards I keep in my (RFID-blocking) wallet, one for each credit account. Then I just pull them out and tap to pay. It's super convenient - no app required!

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by Cider9986 »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #33
Cider9986 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, GrapheneOS is compatible with the vast , vast majority of Android apps, so you can use GBoard or FUTO keyboard (which I recently switched to from GBoard), to get the ideal experience. FUTO recently revamped their swipe to type model and it's now more accurate than GBoard in their…

Thanks for your thoughts. I use FUTO voice usually, but there are situations where typing out a short message is better -- eg, in a restaurant or doctor's office or someplace where voice input might bother other people. I've found graphene's keyboard far more error-prone than the stock android keyboard, but I also don't care to learn swipe to type. The feature I'm missing is simply that rubbing my finger left or righ…

FUTO and GBoard has the feature you're describing and I use it all the time. Pretty much anything you miss from Pixel UI can be attained by simply installing Google's app from the playstore.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS »

mvdtnz wrote: post #13
Cider9986 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To get a sense of the project and its goals I recommend reading this post[1]. Buying a used Pixel is economical, environmental, and likely doesn't support Google. Pixels are the only secure and open android devices that could work for the project and meet the extensive requirements[2]. This is because GrapheneOS takes real steps to protect user privacy and security, not features that degrade security and don't increa…

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> The Pixel was never sold in my country

Okay, see, that's an important thing to add to your original post. Saves everyone a lot of time.

If they don't sell them in your country, it's not "no thank you" as you said, it's "this doesn't apply to me".

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by theandrewbailey »

jordand wrote: post #12

I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

When I got a new phone last year, I purposely got a Pixel (open box 9a) to put GrapheneOS on it immediately. Been happy living the de-Googled Android life since.

I was sad that I had to go through the OOBE setup on the stock image to unlock the bootloader. At least it doesn't force an internet connection and login, unlike Windows.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by jayd16 »

Cider9986 wrote: post #23
lucb1e wrote: post #17

The post doesn't say - what's new? Anything to look forward to besides the security patches for A17 being available for longer than they will be for A16? Asking as an A11 user who will probably soon need to switch to a new device. I haven't noticed anything on other people's phones that isn't available on mine, including on my work phone that runs an up-to-date GrapheneOS (but I don't need to do much more than callin…

Desktop mode is new and exciting. This should have the full list; it's not a ton of changes, which speaks to how perfected Android has become. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17...

New garbage collector could be pretty big.
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