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EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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post #16

And demand will probably go up a lot further still. Right now fuel prices are kept artificially low by every country releasing their strategic reserves, but these will run out at some point. Europe is heading into the worst energy crisis since at least the 1970s, possibly worse. And yet very little is happening to prepare for it. Definitely some fun times ahead.

I think perhaps the huge surge in EV demand has something to do with preparing for the energy crisis

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

#32
post #16

And demand will probably go up a lot further still. Right now fuel prices are kept artificially low by every country releasing their strategic reserves, but these will run out at some point. Europe is heading into the worst energy crisis since at least the 1970s, possibly worse. And yet very little is happening to prepare for it. Definitely some fun times ahead.

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Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

#33
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is on pace to run out of its strategic reserve in ~2 weeks.

I don't think that's true, but if it is then Iran would be foolish to make a deal right now.

Iran has no choice but to make a deal, if they don't want their country turned into a parking lot. With complete air superiority, taking their power plants and a few bridges would lead to complete economic collapse as seen in Cuba.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

#34
post #16

And demand will probably go up a lot further still. Right now fuel prices are kept artificially low by every country releasing their strategic reserves, but these will run out at some point. Europe is heading into the worst energy crisis since at least the 1970s, possibly worse. And yet very little is happening to prepare for it. Definitely some fun times ahead.

The US is on pace to run out of its strategic reserve in ~2 weeks.

Four weeks ago, California received the last of the shipments coming from the Strait. Everyone said CA only has on hand six weeks of supply. There was a bunch of panic baiting posts at the time. I haven't seen any suggesting that the supply is coming to an end, but maybe I've missed stories of resupplies coming in to the west coast??

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

#35
post #4

It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. My next car will be an EV not suggesting it’s a bad decision however I’m still blown away by statistics like this.

> based upon recent events

Climate change has been in the zeitgeist for decades now. Pretty sure many people are cognizant of this and want to move away from fossil fuels. This is just a boost to do so.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

#36
post #4

It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. My next car will be an EV not suggesting it’s a bad decision however I’m still blown away by statistics like this.

What is there to not understand. Given large enough population there's always someone ready to update.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

#37

We went with a PHEV when I renewed our lease last month, specifically because gas prices

Curious why not pure EV?

Range anxiety is probably the only reason one would choose a PHEV these days. They’re slightly cheaper also but that’s unlikely to be a factor.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

#38
post #14
post #4

It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. My next car will be an EV not suggesting it’s a bad decision however I’m still blown away by statistics like this.

> It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. Recent events? Russia going rogue and the US going haywire both happened a decade ago at least. Those are two major suppliers of fossil fuel for Europe. The current trend was bound to happen, it only required time for the industry to pivot.

Recent consequences, the events began long ago :)

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

#39

We went with a PHEV when I renewed our lease last month, specifically because gas prices

Curious why not pure EV?

might depend on the country.

US/california would probably be 50c/kwh (though gas there is close to $7)

all other US states are less (for now, datacenters, ugh)

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

#40
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. Recent events? Russia going rogue and the US going haywire both happened a decade ago at least. Those are two major suppliers of fossil fuel for Europe. The current trend was bound to happen, it only required time for the industry to pivot.

We're commenting on the fact that demand has surged in the last few months. Russian and American behavior from a decade ago didn't (directly) cause that.

There was definitely a build up. Trump was held back from being Trump in the first term. Even with that, there was no recourse for any of the actions that he took. There were also the court decisions that happened in between terms. So this term, he naturally feels no need to hold back. It is unlikely this Trump term would happen had his first not happened.
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