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European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

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Re: European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

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Post by nutjob2 »

delusional wrote: post #27
vrganj wrote: post #16

> A peer-approval system would work both ways. Europe would also take into account FDA decisions This doesn't seem like a given at all. Just because the FDA accepts EMA approvals wouldn't mean the EMA would accept FDA ones and as a European, I wouldn't want it to. I have a lot more trust in the EMA than the FDA.

Peer approval schemes are usually implemented as trade efficiency measures. A one sided peer approval would make it easier to import, while not making it easier to export, causing a delta trade deficit.

That how you end up with chlorinated chicken you'd never knowingly eat.

Obviously any authority that takes its job seriously makes decisions based on facts and not blind trust.

Re: European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

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Post by jamesbelchamber »

> Not at all. In fact, American sunscreens may be less safe.

Are they less safe, or _may_ they be less safe? The distinction is important, and I'm wary of overexcited editors "upgrading" titles for clicks.

(This is a comment on the veracity of the title claim only - I'm British, I have no skin in this game)

Re: European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

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Post by layer8 »

jamesbelchamber wrote: post #33

> Not at all. In fact, American sunscreens may be less safe. Are they less safe, or _may_ they be less safe? The distinction is important, and I'm wary of overexcited editors "upgrading" titles for clicks. (This is a comment on the veracity of the title claim only - I'm British, I have no skin in this game)

> I have no skin in this game

You literally have if you use sunscreen. ;)

Re: European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

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Post by dynm »

The FDA did (3 days ago!) finally approve a new ingredient: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-expa...

My personal hot take is that we should all be using zinc (or titanium) oxide sunscreen which AFAICT maxes out both effectiveness and chemical safety. (And is the best for the fish?) Interestingly, these are the only ingredients that the FDA currently deems both safe and effective.

Re: European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

#36

Post by malfist »

delusional wrote: post #27
vrganj wrote: post #16

> A peer-approval system would work both ways. Europe would also take into account FDA decisions This doesn't seem like a given at all. Just because the FDA accepts EMA approvals wouldn't mean the EMA would accept FDA ones and as a European, I wouldn't want it to. I have a lot more trust in the EMA than the FDA.

Peer approval schemes are usually implemented as trade efficiency measures. A one sided peer approval would make it easier to import, while not making it easier to export, causing a delta trade deficit.

Why is a trade deficit something to worry about? After all, my local grocery store buys nothing from me, but we both benefit from the exchange of goods and currency.

Re: European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

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Post by bethekidyouwant »

layer8 wrote: post #34
jamesbelchamber wrote: post #33

> Not at all. In fact, American sunscreens may be less safe. Are they less safe, or _may_ they be less safe? The distinction is important, and I'm wary of overexcited editors "upgrading" titles for clicks. (This is a comment on the veracity of the title claim only - I'm British, I have no skin in this game)

> I have no skin in this game You literally have if you use sunscreen. ;)

He just said he’s British

Re: European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

delusional wrote: post #27
vrganj wrote: post #16

> A peer-approval system would work both ways. Europe would also take into account FDA decisions This doesn't seem like a given at all. Just because the FDA accepts EMA approvals wouldn't mean the EMA would accept FDA ones and as a European, I wouldn't want it to. I have a lot more trust in the EMA than the FDA.

Peer approval schemes are usually implemented as trade efficiency measures. A one sided peer approval would make it easier to import, while not making it easier to export, causing a delta trade deficit.

That's a problem for the country with insufficient approval schemes to deal with, especially if they're also doing more work out of spite.

For a country which has a sufficient approval scheme, they lose little by choosing not to trusting an insufficient approval scheme.

Re: European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

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Post by [deleted] »

jamesbelchamber wrote: post #33

> Not at all. In fact, American sunscreens may be less safe. Are they less safe, or _may_ they be less safe? The distinction is important, and I'm wary of overexcited editors "upgrading" titles for clicks. (This is a comment on the veracity of the title claim only - I'm British, I have no skin in this game)

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Re: European sunscreens are safer than American (2024)

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Post by Semaphor »

dynm wrote: post #35

The FDA did (3 days ago!) finally approve a new ingredient: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-expa... My personal hot take is that we should all be using zinc (or titanium) oxide sunscreen which AFAICT maxes out both effectiveness and chemical safety. (And is the best for the fish?) Interestingly, these are the only ingredients that the FDA currently deems both safe and effective.

My wife is black and has sensitive skin. She once tried zinc oxide sunscreen. If one wants to be protected from the sun while cosplaying as purple monster, it's a great choice.
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