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Euro-Office: First version of the open-source web office is here

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Re: Euro-Office: First version of the open-source web office is here

#31

I can't help but notice that this, in effect, establishes collaboration between EU and Russian devs over a common open-source office suite, because both projects can easily copy future changes from each other. The irony is staggering, given the war and the public rhetoric.

The developer is "Ascensio System SIA", and they are located in Riga, Latvia.

Why the mention of Russian developers?

Re: Euro-Office: First version of the open-source web office is here

#32
Why are we still focusing on docx so much? Is anybody printing these at all? If not, I have to assume people are putting information in a big free text field, arranging the text like they sit at a type writer, and then other people have to extract the information from the same free text field. There has got to be a better solution for whatever people are trying to achieve with documents.

Re: Euro-Office: First version of the open-source web office is here

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post #32

Why are we still focusing on docx so much? Is anybody printing these at all? If not, I have to assume people are putting information in a big free text field, arranging the text like they sit at a type writer, and then other people have to extract the information from the same free text field. There has got to be a better solution for whatever people are trying to achieve with documents.

Because it’s the default. And you can’t beat MS’ distribution

Re: Euro-Office: First version of the open-source web office is here

#36
It would be more interesting to see the release of the desktop application of open-source Euro-Office because the CEF binary used in "open-source" OnlyOffice desktop application is proprietary.

I have requested [1] the source of the CEF binary for at least two times, with no luck.

[1]: https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE-data/build_tools_data/issues/4

Re: Euro-Office: First version of the open-source web office is here

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post #9

https://github.com/Euro-Office I’m not familiar with the project, but can anyone clarify what it means that it’s not intended to be used standalone and instead built into other projects? What’s the intention / expectation?

The project's FAQ are kinda enlightening: https://github.com/Euro-Office#faq Your question is somewhat answered there: "What is Euro-Office?", "How does Euro-Office compare to IONOS Workspace, office.eu, the Proton productivity suite, Nextcloud Hub or XWiki?" However especially "Why was a new office suite needed" is telling. True EU sovereignty spells: the only requirement is, it must work "greatly" with MS. Oh well,…

You'll never convince companies and users to leave MS Office if they cannot simply use and open their billions of "excel files that should have been a database".

Ensuring that you can do exactly that means the barrier for switching is significantly lower.

Re: Euro-Office: First version of the open-source web office is here

#38
post #10

I can't help but notice that this, in effect, establishes collaboration between EU and Russian devs over a common open-source office suite, because both projects can easily copy future changes from each other. The irony is staggering, given the war and the public rhetoric.

It doesn't seem like a pleasant, bilateral collaboration since Russian developers do not seem pleased about the Euro-Office initiative.[0] [0]: https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE#%EF%B8%8F-legal-note

> Pursuant to Section 7 of AGPLv3, the copyright holder is expressly entitled to impose additional conditions. In the case of ONLYOFFICE, such conditions include, in particular:

>the obligation to retain the original product logo (Section 7(b));

>the denial of any rights to use the copyright holder’s trademarks (Section 7(e)).

In other words you must use our logo and you must not use our logo. Good luck enforcing that.

Re: Euro-Office: First version of the open-source web office is here

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't seem like a pleasant, bilateral collaboration since Russian developers do not seem pleased about the Euro-Office initiative.[0] [0]: https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE#%EF%B8%8F-legal-note

Yes, but they can't do anything about it anyway. The FSF resolution on this matter, though, essentially means that they might just as well pull Euro-Office patches into OnlyOffice. So in the end, the product will be formed by combined effort.

The codebase will diverge quickly; the Russian one is heavily obfuscated with s ton of Russian in it and obscure commit messages. A large portion of prep work by Nextcloud was cleaning and translating. OnlyOffice was also known for refusing PRs, too.
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