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Re: Cohere's First Model for Developers

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It's embarassing? Awfully harsh!

It really is. I’m very familiar with that as well. It’s truly embarrassing how much hand-holding those guys have received from angels, investors, the government, etc. To the point where the same investors they’re going to pitch to are preparing their slides, telling them what to say during the presentation, and then approving them for even more funding afterward, lol. That government part is corruption and illegal, b…

Sure, and OpenAI, Anthropic, Grokkk are totally self-made and profitable.

Re: Cohere's First Model for Developers

#35
Well, this is certainly not benchmaxxed, I'll give it that. And props for being honest about how far behind Qwen 3.6 MoE is this model.

But yeah, it's not the best look to have to stretch and say it's "competitive" with other models in it's weight class, when it offers not much else that's useful or novel.

Re: Cohere's First Model for Developers

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really is. I’m very familiar with that as well. It’s truly embarrassing how much hand-holding those guys have received from angels, investors, the government, etc. To the point where the same investors they’re going to pitch to are preparing their slides, telling them what to say during the presentation, and then approving them for even more funding afterward, lol. That government part is corruption and illegal, b…

Sure, and OpenAI, Anthropic, Grokkk are totally self-made and profitable.

Well, the level of tech is at least on a whole different level at those companies than whatever cohere is doing.

Re: Cohere's First Model for Developers

#37
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Wasn't aware that Cohere was still around but this release doesn't exactly instill confidence.

>Wasn't aware that Cohere was still around but this release doesn't exactly instill confidence. It's being kept alive because the Canadian government is desperate to have a local frontier lab and is willing to inject funding and force its adoption in government services, but leadership at Cohere is known to be weak in Canadian tech circles, and they pivoting to an enterprise-first market around production RAG rather…

Mulling over applying there to work. Hearing a bunch of mixed reviews where some people also complain about leadership but the day to day seems to be quite good. Any reason big US investors haven't put any money into it? (besides the fact that it's Canadian?)

Re: Cohere's First Model for Developers

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's embarassing? Awfully harsh!

It really is. I’m very familiar with that as well. It’s truly embarrassing how much hand-holding those guys have received from angels, investors, the government, etc. To the point where the same investors they’re going to pitch to are preparing their slides, telling them what to say during the presentation, and then approving them for even more funding afterward, lol. That government part is corruption and illegal, b…

this is just one of the many weird stuff I hear out of Canada that always surprises me, I've compiled a list:

- the wife of a professor I knew in canada apparently makes 400k/year for some Aboriginal art gallery that gets like two visits a year. They kicked out small businesses in that building so they could have a 6000 sq ft for an art gallery that sits empty with the weirdest "art" that nobody has heard of.

- canadian coworker said around 2020 there was like 3 developers that charged the Canadian government $70 million for some flutter app that had ONE screen to check in and out of places due to quarantine and it didn't even work.

- ten million here and there to raise diversity and LGBTQ in African countries that don't even have running water or electricity and other brow raising spend of tax money

- a founder raised money for a SaaS but was shut down by the Canadian government after not being issued license. Same exact SaaS was funded and the person running it had political connections.

A country with 8 times smaller population and 15 times smaller economy than USA somehow has 7 times more tax employees. It's unclear what the end game is for Canada.

Re: Cohere's First Model for Developers

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really is. I’m very familiar with that as well. It’s truly embarrassing how much hand-holding those guys have received from angels, investors, the government, etc. To the point where the same investors they’re going to pitch to are preparing their slides, telling them what to say during the presentation, and then approving them for even more funding afterward, lol. That government part is corruption and illegal, b…

this is just one of the many weird stuff I hear out of Canada that always surprises me, I've compiled a list: - the wife of a professor I knew in canada apparently makes 400k/year for some Aboriginal art gallery that gets like two visits a year. They kicked out small businesses in that building so they could have a 6000 sq ft for an art gallery that sits empty with the weirdest "art" that nobody has heard of. - canad…

> It's unclear what the end game is for Canada

The Liberals can never lose an election because the amount of people who rely on them for handouts outnumber the people who work in private enterprises and don't get handouts.

It's the Argentinian Peronist strategy...

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