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Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

#31
This is hilarious considering you can easily[1] get a whole ARM laptop with 16GB for $425 all day, and that will also include a screen, keyboard, trackpad, battery, and storage.

I first checked for Mac Minis and interestingly they are much closer to $650 for similar specs.

And obviously if Intel is fine for your use case, either the N100 type of mini PC or, my preference, an off-lease HP, Dell, or Lenovo USFF PC, would be like half that for a very capable machine.

[1] https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=m1%20macbook%20air%2016...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

#32

Even worse, continued RAM shortages and inflation might actually mean that will have been a good price in a year's time.

Every day I go to bed praying CXMT hurries the *$!@ up and dumps an ungodly amount of cheap RAM upon global markets

I wonder so much what their initial capacity was (which ought to go up marginally, and what their expected capacity curves look like.

I would not expect them to dump cheap ram. That is a false hope. The world needs volume, massively more volume, and it feels like everyone else is going to take a sizable fraction of a decade to even start responding. Maybe perhaps possibly CXMT can scale fast, but they have many multiples to grow before they are more than a drop in the bucket.

It's also unclear when if they too will want to start stacking 12 then 16 then 24 rams atop each other, to sell chips that cost what multiples of what GPUs used to.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

#33
So strange. I can probably sell my 4GB Pi 5 for about 40% more than I bought it for... 3 years ago. This isn't how computers are supposed to work, let alone Pis.

I get what's happening, but it's strange to see it happening.

Actually, could I sell it for ~10% less than someone would buy it new? Is there a market for used Pis? Maybe 30%, I don't know. That I can sell it for what I got it for at all is wild.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

#34
My home cluster is built from surplus Dell Optiplex desktops that I got from BYU Surplus and added some RAM (before RAM price went totally bananas) and SSDs to. I spent less than the cost of one of these Pis to acquire all of them together.

I later added a large machine that I used to use as a Linux desktop, with a GPU and 64GB RAM, which I use for generating OpenStreetMap tiles.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

#35

I hate this timeline: How is a Pi marginally cheaper than a Mac Mini?

because Apple goes in and buys out entire production cycles based on anticipated demand. Most infamously they got a year worth of TSMCs last new node - no one else could have it.

Usually, that gamble pays off, sometimes it does not (cough Apple Vision), and in some cases they get so many QC rejects that they can make an entire new product line on (financially) worthless scrap, that's how the MacBook Neo came to be - a bunch of iPhone SoC's that failed binning, I think in GPU cores.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

#36
post #14

Come on, a one gigabyte Pi is under $50. There's no plot lost, it's just expensive RAM. 2gb is $75. That's where Pi plays well.

Yet the Radxa Rock 4d[1] has 4Gb and is selling for 69 dollars. [1]: https://arace.tech/products/radxa-rock-4d

Four of those would be $280 though, so this doesn't seem hilariously out of scale with that.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

#37

So strange. I can probably sell my 4GB Pi 5 for about 40% more than I bought it for... 3 years ago. This isn't how computers are supposed to work, let alone Pis. I get what's happening, but it's strange to see it happening. Actually, could I sell it for ~10% less than someone would buy it new? Is there a market for used Pis? Maybe 30%, I don't know. That I can sell it for what I got it for at all is wild.

A lot of computer parts can be sold at a high profit nowadays.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

#39
Some folks might have missed that memory prices on the whole are up [1] 90% since Q4.

The memory used by the Pi 5 is up 700% [2]!

Raspberry Pi are working the issue by releasing new memory variants that are cheaper[2].

Edit: You can still walk into a Microcenter and get Pi 5 16GB for US $289!

1. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/

2. https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/a-new-3gb-raspberry-pi-4-fo...

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