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RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon

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Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon

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> We wired a Raspberry Pi... > ...the focus of hackathons has completely shifted away from typing code... > ...iterating on intricacies of implementation with radical refactors has become a trivial task... The irony is unreal. Where's the hardware? Since the advent of SBCs and microcontroller kits, software devs have felt the same way about hardware being trivial. Yet, a hardware engineer still makes a massive differ…

>The irony is unreal. Where's the hardware? It's the rotary phone and the raspberry pi, of course. Don't gatekeep. The fact that microcontrollers are so cheap now means for most (but, sure, not all) applications they're strictly superior in every way compared to e.g. 555 timers and LM386 amplifiers, or whatever. This is because, critically, you can debug and reprogram a micro. To do the equivalent with a 555 timer me…

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Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon

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there's an Ice cream shop in my city that has obviously generated all their signage and menus and everything else, even on their website the photos section has AI generated people smiling and happy next to the sign. I get that it's a small business that has probably saved a couple of G's on design/code but it's all so sloppy and obvious.

I find basic sites, that were probably put together by the owner’s nephew, rather charming. Much better than AI.

I'll even excuse the ones with food photos that look like they were taken with a feature phone. New places that can't even bother to take photos of their own menu are a massive red flag to me. Where else are they cutting corners?

Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon

#34

On the contrary, I think software hackathons could really hit a golden age where we see how far people can push the limits of what we ever thought possible within 24 hours or a weekend through the use of AI. Less “pretty UI with mock data” and more fully working products ready for the consumer market.

I don't think you understand the goal of a hackathon. They aren't (or weren't) VC pitch sessions.

You don't run marathons to be usane bolt, you don't go to hackathons to land VC deals.

24 hours of non stop AI usage doesn't sound fun. It sounds hateful and demotivating, you want to discover yourself, and maybe some other people, not what a robot can do.

Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon

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Is participation in your off time mandatory? If so, the problem is not hackathons. If not, why not just… not participate? The folks who do often enjoy working on the problems, networking, etc., so I’m not sure killing them all together is particularly fair to folks who do get a lot out of them.

The lack of participation is often one of those things that management will quietly hold against you.

mandatory fun

Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon

#36
Nearly all my hackathon projects were hardware, back in college.

A couple examples (both from HackPrinceton, which had the best EE labs):

* https://blog.cyrusroshan.com/post/electronic-banjo (crowd favorite)

* https://blog.cyrusroshan.com/post/spin-to-win (a "moonshot" idea)

There's something nice about holding your work in your hands. Tangible work is also both easy to explain, and hard to fake. So going the hardware route felt fun, fulfilling, and scored well.

Good times.

Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon

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Someone was bragging to me about their new AI startup a few months ago. I went to look at their website. It was some AI slop. I checked out the code for their form to register interest for the launch… it wasn’t setup at all. It was just a form that went nowhere. They had an idea, told AI to make a site about it, didn’t bother replacing the boilerplate to make it work, hosted it, and then started bragging to their fri…

there's an Ice cream shop in my city that has obviously generated all their signage and menus and everything else, even on their website the photos section has AI generated people smiling and happy next to the sign. I get that it's a small business that has probably saved a couple of G's on design/code but it's all so sloppy and obvious.

There's a new bakery that opened up near me and they have signage on their windows with clearly AI generated images of their food. How the hell do they think that is going to appeal to a potential customer?

Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon

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post #34

On the contrary, I think software hackathons could really hit a golden age where we see how far people can push the limits of what we ever thought possible within 24 hours or a weekend through the use of AI. Less “pretty UI with mock data” and more fully working products ready for the consumer market.

I don't think you understand the goal of a hackathon. They aren't (or weren't) VC pitch sessions. You don't run marathons to be usane bolt, you don't go to hackathons to land VC deals. 24 hours of non stop AI usage doesn't sound fun. It sounds hateful and demotivating, you want to discover yourself , and maybe some other people, not what a robot can do.

The problem is my friend you're right but people who tend to browse this website are no longer engineers who would also understand this; it's mostly HR, Managerial staff, and jaded engineers who never enjoyed implementation details, and who are presently trying to convince everyone else implementation details are no longer of relevance.

Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon

#40

On the contrary, I think software hackathons could really hit a golden age where we see how far people can push the limits of what we ever thought possible within 24 hours or a weekend through the use of AI. Less “pretty UI with mock data” and more fully working products ready for the consumer market.

It's just gatekeeping. It should make them super cool. "Well you have to have good ideas and skills to do anything with AI or it's just slop!" Ok, then it sounds like nothing changed.
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