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Re: Apple Watch for Your Kids

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My child has an SE, and the only downside we’ve seen is that without a connected iPhone or WiFi network, the battery life is unimaginably bad. That little LTE radio works hard in the school.

Re: Apple Watch for Your Kids

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Perhaps this is true if Erica is 16, but if Erica is 10 then I would like to be notified if she doesn't make it to school safely.

I get how it can feel horrifying, but I don't think we should make this decision based on gut-reactions. Bad things can and do happen to children, but nearly not as much to warrant tracking them. Even if it were, I'd be reluctant to say that this is okay

Who are you to say what is okay? She's not your child.

Yes its unlikely something bad would happen. It's also unlikely that you would get into a life threatening car accident. But you still wear a seatbelt. Why? Because it's the precautionary principle, pretty much common sense.

Yes in the past we let children wander, but if you asked those parents in the past if there was some very low cost way to afford additional security like knowing where your 10 year old is, they would obviously take it. But for some reason people take the wrong lessons from the past.

Re: Apple Watch for Your Kids

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nitpick: the “where is erica?” is a catchy title for the feature being showcased - which is actually a notification that your child made it to school safely. Look at the screenshot closely (i don’t think you did). That’s a genuinely useful feature. Anyway I agree with you in general! But don’t forget that everyone has a different relationship with their kids and each kid is different. Believe it or not, not every tee…

> nitpick: the “where is erica?” is a catchy title for the feature being showcased - which is actually a notification that your child made it to school safely. When I click on that square it says: > See everyone’s location using the Find My app. And receive alerts when they arrive at their destination or get home. Parents can also get alerts when their child leaves a location, like school. So the image shows a notifi…

you’re correct - that’s the purpose of the Find My app. And this app can send useful notifications.

Re: Apple Watch for Your Kids

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nitpick: the “where is erica?” is a catchy title for the feature being showcased - which is actually a notification that your child made it to school safely. Look at the screenshot closely (i don’t think you did). That’s a genuinely useful feature. Anyway I agree with you in general! But don’t forget that everyone has a different relationship with their kids and each kid is different. Believe it or not, not every tee…

> which is actually a notification that your child made it to school safely Thank you for the comment. I did notice that it was a notification, though. It is an useful feature, but I don't think this is a good trade-off. Some Erica's might skip school and do some dumb and unsafe things, but I think this bit of privacy and autonomy is actually necessary for a good life

and i totally respect that point of view. but do realize that every family is different for better or worse, and has a different “culture”.

I’m not prescribing how others should run their families or what a good life means. :)

For example my kid is still young. I absolutely plan to use FindMy for peace of mind. Not to spy on them daily, but to quickly check where they are if they’re running 30 min or 60 min behind schedule. Like if they said they’d be home by x time. When they get older (maybe 14?) i’d flip it around and encourage them to disable location sharing with me most of the time, for privacy and autonomy, and ask them to intentionally use the “share location for 1 hour” feature when they want me to know their location. Like when they are in an uber, or walking home late at night from a friends house, etc.

Re: Apple Watch for Your Kids

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Feels like an interesting trend where a "solution" for parent anxiety (and to be fair, vastly increased societal expectations around what "care" looks like) is proposed to be electronic surveillance. It's a kid tracker / ankle bracelet in an attractive form factor. I was a kid in the 80s, city fringe, single parent who worked until 5:30. Honestly nobody had any idea where me & my friends were a lot of the time. Total…

We used to have payphones. You could ask a gas station attendant for directions, or someone on the street. Those sort of options have disappeared or become much less common. If my 11 year old starts asking a random person on the street how to get somewhere there is now a chance I will hear from DHS.

It is a different world now. Not everyone cares about the tracking, though it is nice to have for younger kids who may go on a field trip or with a group of friends and get separated or any number of normal situations.

Re: Apple Watch for Your Kids

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

nitpick: the “where is erica?” is a catchy title for the feature being showcased - which is actually a notification that your child made it to school safely. Look at the screenshot closely (i don’t think you did). That’s a genuinely useful feature. Anyway I agree with you in general! But don’t forget that everyone has a different relationship with their kids and each kid is different. Believe it or not, not every tee…

> this device can be a bridge from a dumb phone to a smart-ish device, a device that’s not an actual smart phone What do you mean exactly? Is it really a "bridge from/to" or rather a "compromise between"?

well it’s a device that can be smart in some crucial ways, without being distracting like a smartphone is. That’s what i mean. no social media or other cancer for a teenage brain. But it has useful apps for day to day life, like maps, music, messages, etc.

Re: Apple Watch for Your Kids

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nitpick: the “where is erica?” is a catchy title for the feature being showcased - which is actually a notification that your child made it to school safely. Look at the screenshot closely (i don’t think you did). That’s a genuinely useful feature. Anyway I agree with you in general! But don’t forget that everyone has a different relationship with their kids and each kid is different. Believe it or not, not every tee…

> which is actually a notification that your child made it to school safely. Look at the screenshot closely (i don’t think you did). That’s a genuinely useful feature. Is it? I would think that the useful notification would be “Erica didn’t make it to school safely”. A notification that kids are where they are expected to be will needlessly distract parents many millions of times, and may cause anxiety every time it’…

> I would think that the useful notification would be “Erica didn’t make it to school safely”.

That’s an excellent point actually. 100%. I don’t think FindMy can support something like that today which is unfortunate. I think the parent could create an ios shortcut that runs at a certain time every day, but that’s a lot of work lol.

> Luckily, I don’t think that image shows a notification.

It certainly does. It even say “time sensitive”, which is how ios annotates important notifications for a few years now. The FindMy app can also answer the “where is erica?” question (through siri), so i can see why it’s confusing.

Re: Apple Watch for Your Kids

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The response to "Where's Erica?" should not be to put a tracking wristband on Erica. Perhaps you won't know where Erica is. Perhaps she is doing something dangerous. The oblivion and ambiguity are part of what constitutes acknowledging Erica's personhood.

A parent as enlightened as you should have no trouble asking at dinner—without judgement or advice—"and how was your smoke sesh out back of the 7-11?"
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