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There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Post by TylerE »

Havoc wrote: post #24

Think this underestimates quality of life benefits. Recently went from a 500mbps line + wifi bridge (~ +2ms, 1.5gbps throughput on wifi) to a 1.6gig line with wired 2.5gig and was surprised that it made a noticeable difference in casual browsing. The numbers say it shouldn't but it did If 30 bucks more saves me time on downloads AND every single click on browsing a bit snappier...that makes sense to me even if I don'…

A really good CDN like Steam can absolutely saturate a link like that. I'm on a gigabit line (which actually performs at more like 1.1), and I've seen 120MB/sec download speeds on Steam. With today's games often weighting in at 50GB+ that's not nothing, either.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Post by elif »

functionmouse wrote: post #8

it's great because when your connection drops to 10% its normal speed, you no longer notice

You also have to factor in that your connection can drop to 10% far more often because of connection pooling. Each of your neighbors has a gigabit of bandwidth to use too.

Like in a perfect world, if everyone's cars went 10x faster, traffic would be a thing of the past. But because we can't have nice things, we would actually just be stuck in gridlock behind 10x more car crashes.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Post by matja »

aeonik wrote: post #25
matja wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that 80-100GB of unique data multiple times per day? Is it encrypted with a different key every time? Sounds very interesting.

Not OP, but modern asymmetric cryptography on the Internet negotiates a new encryption key on every connection.

True, but that is transport (TLS). I was asking about the underlying data.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Post by washadjeffmad »

scoot wrote: post #17
fg137 wrote: post #10

If the author ever talked to a gamer, they would have learned how ignorant they are. edit: in case it's not clear, when every other new game from major publisher starts at 50GB or 100GB and can sometimes be 300+GB, waiting 2hrs to download it is terrible and horrible for energy use.

Edit to recognise your edit, as you’ve clarified that were talking about downloads - a once a month experience. That sounds more like a time management problem - buy your game, go to bed, and it’ll be there when you wake at 2:30 for your next gaming session. ;) ~You appear to be confusing latency and bandwidth. While they are to an extent two dimensions of the same problem, it’s latency that affects gaming regardless…

Console games today are routinely >50GB, and more frequently >100GB for the most popular titles. On common residential plans, it can take upwards of an hour before installation even begins.

I'm not a gamer, but I hear with how often there are required updates before playing, slower internet is pretty disruptive to quick drop-in multiplayer sessions with friends.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

gambiting wrote: post #6

I work from home, and in video games. I download multiple 80-100GB builds every single day just to do my job. Virgin's 1.2Gbps connection is barely good enough. The moment they bring 2 or 3Gbps out on their nextfibre service I'll upgrade to it almost no matter the cost. I'm jealous of our European neighbours where you can get domestic 10Gbps connections. But beyond work - the ability to download any game from steam w…

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Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Post by compounding_it »

Since getting a unifi network for home here is the breakdown so far:

Peak utilization (from what I know this is total bandwidth used throughout the timeline) in a fairly active household when it comes to internet is under 20% on a 200/200 connection.

Majority of the data usage goes to streaming services. With software updates/downloads being second. These two account for like 80% of the traffic or even more. Browsing is next usually.

Only a handful of times in a week will some device hit 100% (200mbps) for a brief period. This is mostly not noticeable for other devices and probably why the high bandwidth is recommended. It allows for better experience overall, not necessarily something that helps you do something faster.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Post by hnlmorg »

The author is talking about using one device at a time. And if you’re living along then gigabit might be surplus to your needs. However many of us have families.

I work from home and since getting gigabit, my video conferences have stopped degrading in quality right around the time the kids get home from school.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Post by TylerE »

edent wrote: post #3
_fw wrote: post #2

Just download a PS5 game with your PS5 connected to your router. Justified.

In my experience, the Sony servers can barely saturate a 500Mbps pipe.

My experience too. For some reason the Sony servers are terrible. I'm lucky to see 100Mbps speeds, and that's on a gigabit link.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Post by matja »

bwat49 wrote: post #19
matja wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please can you enlighten the ignorant that are also gamers? :)

downloading a game on steam can fully utilize gigabit speeds, and modern games can be 100+gb

I play games but I suppose I don't download a 100GB game frequently enough for it to matter to myself.
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