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Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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Can we summarize this as "people get horny sometimes" and "ovulating people get horny"? Or is that too reductive?

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What do you wonder exactly? Where is the confusion?

Do you not know what ovulation is? Ovulation is the phase of the menstrual cycle when a mature egg is released from the ovary.

Do you not understand what people are? People is an American weekly magazine that specializes in celebrity news and human-interest stories. Okay, I'm being cheeky here.

Or is it that you assume that people can't ovulate? I can assure you, they can. For example:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7200380/

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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I am not scientist enough to judge this, so please someone enlighten me: most categories i've read through that find a shift do so with an increase of about 0.1-0.2 standard deviations. that does not sound significant to me. is that enough to make the claims this study makes?

considering this is a review aggregating a bunch of small n studies from before we acknowledged the replication crisis in psychology, I'm going with "no"

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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The whole field of evolutionary psychology is in a replication crisis, and there are several newer studies that did not find any evidence for any changes in 'mate preference' across the ovulatory cycle.

General sexual desire, but not desire for uncommitted sexual relationships, tracks changes in women's hormonal status https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29287282/

Meta-Analysis of Menstrual Cycle Effects on Women’s Mate Preferences https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/175407391452307...

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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What do you wonder exactly? Where is the confusion? Do you not know what ovulation is? Ovulation is the phase of the menstrual cycle when a mature egg is released from the ovary. Do you not understand what people are? People is an American weekly magazine that specializes in celebrity news and human-interest stories. Okay, I'm being cheeky here. Or is it that you assume that people can't ovulate? I can assure you, th…

In human spieces only woman is able to ovulate.

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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What do you wonder exactly? Where is the confusion? Do you not know what ovulation is? Ovulation is the phase of the menstrual cycle when a mature egg is released from the ovary. Do you not understand what people are? People is an American weekly magazine that specializes in celebrity news and human-interest stories. Okay, I'm being cheeky here. Or is it that you assume that people can't ovulate? I can assure you, th…

In human spieces only woman is able to ovulate.

You literally got a research paper proving the contrary handed to you on a silver platter. We know what you were trying to say, the parent comment is calling you out

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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Many behaviors are determined by hormones. Men are no exception. When calm, men tend to prefer intellectual women, but when they're impulsive after drinking in a bar, they prefer sexy women.

In my experience it’s usually the other way around

It is a curious thing how drinking affects people in different ways. Some people get reflective, others belligerent.

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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It's 2026, and I still can't read a PDF on mobile. I must be doing something wrong. I'm using FF Focus. Is that it? I tried Safari. Either they moved the reader button, or it's not present for PDFs. Help me Obi-Wan.

PDFs are generally meant for printed paper, it's not you - it's the medium.

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In human spieces only woman is able to ovulate.

You literally got a research paper proving the contrary handed to you on a silver platter. We know what you were trying to say, the parent comment is calling you out

Oh, so because this one occurrence of disorder, we are now speaking “ovulating people” instead of “ovulating woman”. Not because of some people who don’t know what a woman is?

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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This research is one of the important studies in my own understanding of the world. I think it's the type of thing people are cautious to talk about too much because it might drive a certain type of person crazy and lead them to overcompensate in weird/destructive ways. I also remember there's a study on how hormonal birth control (which causes the body to perceive itself as pregnant) affects these preferences too. I…

I love evolutionary psychology trivia but for me it's kind of hard to meaningfully fit 0.13 standard deviation shift in preferences into my world model.

I stubbed my toe. I don’t feel like ice cream today.

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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Findings of TFA: Yes. Women show a robust increase in attraction to cues of ancestral genetic quality (body masculinity, behavioral dominance) on high-fertility days, but only when evaluating men as short-term/unspecified sexual partners, not long-term partners.

Which only supports my belief that with the proliferation of contraception tying sex and long-term partnership together is becoming a useless anachronism

Are you kidding? Sexless long-term partnerships are nothing new; they've been around for ages - that's just called marriage!
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