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Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#31
> SPONSORED CONTENT FROM BROWSER CHOICE ALLIANCE

Who is the "Browser Choice Alliance" I thought to myself. One web search later:

> Our members: Midori, Opera, Vivaldi, Wavebox, Browserworks, and, ... wait for it ...

> Chrome.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#32
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> Microsoft leverages its immensely powerful position as the supplier of the ubiquitous Windows PC operating system, as well as many productivity and other must-have apps, to push users towards its first-party browser, Edge, through tactics that restrict, distort and subvert user choice. Heh. This could have been written 25 years ago. Though at least back then, Microsoft was winning. Since then, the market share of I…

>Heh. This could have been written 25 years ago. I am reading this wondering if I got pranked and its a historical article. Until I got to "Edge"

My first thought was "what year is this"?

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#33
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't get that message from Apple, but the people who would otherwise offer you a meaningful choice of browsers do. They can only do what Apple permits them to do, which isn't much.

They need to get their browsers listed on AppStore, sure.

Or to put it another way, they can only do what Apple permits them to do.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#34

Controversial thought: Browsers will become a niche and fall into obscurity like IRC nowadays, based on what I observed working in South East Asia, where people don't even know what browsers are and "the internet" are walled social networks and apps.

It's not controversial, I've heard the same for about 10 years now. I still thinking they're wrong - people who need control cant really on social network apps. People who are just "consumers", sure, but those already don't know what a browser is, so it's not really a prediction about the future it's a statement about the present.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#35
Why are people still using Windows? OMG, what is wrong with people? Just use Linux. Literally any major Linux distro is superior nowadays.

You don't like it, stop using it! You hate it, boycott it! Don't expect change. They care so little about you and your opinions; demanding change from a multi-trillion dollar company is almost cringe-worthy at this point. Like a cockroach begging for mercy as your shoe is coming down onto it at full speed.

It's so frustrating how people nowadays complain about systems that they can easily change (or substitute, in this case) and nobody seems to complain about those systems which they cannot change nor substitute.

If you complain to abstract entities which don't care about you, about problems which you can easily solve yourself, you're the problem!

You're the reason why everything is shit and stays shit.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#36
I have a message for microsoft. I don't work for you. You don't mandate me to do a {$profanity} thing. You can "strongly suggest", "highly recommend", beg. I don't care if you lock me out of my github account. I will not be told what to do by your company. I'm certainly not installing any app from your company nor linking a personal device just to access github.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#37
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't get that message from Apple, but the people who would otherwise offer you a meaningful choice of browsers do. They can only do what Apple permits them to do, which isn't much.

They need to get their browsers listed on AppStore, sure.

Apple prohibits JITs outside the EU, and this makes a modern browser a non-starter.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#39

Don't many of these points apply to iOS and Android as well? From this article [0] > Smartphones have become the dominant gateway to the internet. > Mobile Share of Web Requests (Dec 2024) - 63% IMHO, this is far more pernicious and insidious. [0]: https://www.theglobalstatistics.com/device-usage-trends/

Yes. But nowadays iOS lets you install multiple browsers and select default one different from safari.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#40
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, because you are actually still using Safari under the hood.

Not in the EU

AFAIK only on paper? At least, last time I checked, there were no non-WebKit browsers available yet (at least not Gecko or Blink).
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