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U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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These sorts of things did happen before the internet though. Think of the Cultural Revolution in China started by revolutionary university students. Mass printed pamphlets was the original meme. The more things change the more they stay the same.

This is why any totalitarian regime bans printed pamphlets.

Uh yea you used to need a license to run a printing press, there’s quite a few that were operated in secret

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These sorts of things did happen before the internet though. Think of the Cultural Revolution in China started by revolutionary university students. Mass printed pamphlets was the original meme. The more things change the more they stay the same.

This is why any totalitarian regime bans printed pamphlets.

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It's interesting to have a conversation with people over politics these days, sometimes it's like people don't live in the same reality anymore. It's probably not far from the truth. To a first approximation, nothing is verified, people see a number on social media as a proxy for accuracy. Even if it's completely wrong, it doesn't matter because you're among friends. Memes let insane ideas spread like a virus, the on…

For me, what really drove home how bad it is is that I know otherwise normal people in real life who think that many Haitian immigrants are eating people's pets. To even find that plausible there was a lot of racist misinformation they needed to have already internalized to the point that "don't live in the same reality" seems very accurate. Though one bit of hope is that for me politics has never been that much diff…

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It is the world wide web so yes there should be plenty of links to those, but I do not have them.

I did do some searching and any link I found was already dead (hence me asking here!), so it's not really helpful to say "there should be plenty of links".

Disinformation moved from page rank to the "feed" in 2018 when Douyin bought (read: acquired copyright they originally stole) Musically and rebranded to TikTok. Why does no one remember any of this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_websites_in_the_Unit...

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I strongly recommend anyone interested to do a quick search of the leadership of checkpoint.com and if they have ties to any foreign intelligence.

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This has nothing to do with antisemitism and I shouldn’t have to say that. This is about unfair interference of a foreign power in US elections which I thought was the entire point of this post.

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They’ve done this to my workplace too. We have several domains for employee-concerning content and they’ve mirrored them and placed them at the top of Google’s search results. If you’ve forgotten the URL and go to Google it, you can get phished super easily.

I can see the elderly and the tech illiterate falling for similar schemes with mirrors of the NYT, CNN, FOX, etc.

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I strongly recommend anyone interested to do a quick search of the leadership of checkpoint.com and if they have ties to any foreign intelligence.

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If you're not from Israel, Israeli companies are by definition foreign institutions to you. Pointing out a media company is owned by Chinese companies are not racism against Chinese. Same with Israel.

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This has nothing to do with antisemitism and I shouldn’t have to say that. This is about unfair interference of a foreign power in US elections which I thought was the entire point of this post.

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It's interesting to have a conversation with people over politics these days, sometimes it's like people don't live in the same reality anymore. It's probably not far from the truth. To a first approximation, nothing is verified, people see a number on social media as a proxy for accuracy. Even if it's completely wrong, it doesn't matter because you're among friends. Memes let insane ideas spread like a virus, the on…

> And now the tools are there for anyone to generate bullshit at a scale commensurate to their wallet. Democratizing propaganda. Not sure the previous state of affairs where propaganda was accessible to the ruling class and their media corporations was better, it might have just seemed that way because there appeared to be less conflict when it came to them telling you what was in "your own best interest". I do have…

As if this polarization does anything but atomize and disenfranchise people even further. As if people cannot communicate and work together with people who aren't in the exact same cult as them are more than LARPing slaves spitting on their own equipment that shows cartoons of the other during their 24/7 of hate. As if the people and companies whose fortunes are exploding further are "gnashing their teeth".

As if people who fantasize about putting people in virtual pens (thinking of Yarvin here) give one singular fuck about you or anyone you care about.

> They want so desperately to censor the commoners (for our own good, naturally).

"the commoners", i.e. Peter Thiel gushing to Epstein about balkanization... you're getting played like a piano.

edit: I should have phrased that last bit differently, we are all getting played like a piano. Factual reality itself, which "normal" people need to survive and defend themselves against sociopaths and assorted groups, is under attack, and I suspect by many parties who don't even like each other. What they all hate honesty and open discussion.

Hence the bubbles. We're all in dimly lit clubs and just repeat stuff that originates from who knows where. We never ask. But it's just us, sticking it to "the man" who cannot possibly have his fingers in it. I'm so tired of it, and I really want that to come across :P

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If you're not from Israel, Israeli companies are by definition foreign institutions to you. Pointing out a media company is owned by Chinese companies are not racism against Chinese. Same with Israel.

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