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Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Claims in the lawsuit seem sketchy, and I don't think they will win. It is probably not true that ChatGPT has resulted in an increase in murders and suicides, and certainly it would be very difficult to prove liability on OpenAI for this. It reminds me of the campaign in the 90s against video game manufacturers for "corrupting the youth". But I also don't think they expect to win. They just want to show that they're…

Depends if they have a judge in mind to tip the scales

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals Source? It’s been an open secret in academia and medicine that professors [1] and doctors [2] are fleeing Texas’s political climate. [1] https://www.texastribune.org/2025/09/05/texas-faculty-univer... [2] https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/08/Texas-obstetrics-gyn...

[1] is incredibly vague. Professors of what specifically? Computer science? Feminist theory? The second doesn't produce 'educated professionals'.

> [1] is incrcredibly vague

I was just in New York. NYU has been recruiting Texas robotics professors. Political volatility and funding cuts for research aren’t exactly fertile ground for an advanced economy.

Right after Covid, both Texas and Florida saw a huge influx of talent. That seems to have stabilized (and caused a political backlash), with both retaining advantages, but Texas retreating back to energy and Florida to tourism. (They both have token tech scenes, with Austin holding ground against Boston and Seattle.)

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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It's interesting how Texas and Florida are both "red" states but have pivoted into really different political paths under the same flag. Texas is leaning into becoming the manufacturing and R&D hub for the US, and is courting gigascale data centers and rolling out nuclear power, near-infinite solar, wind, and gas to power it as fast as possible. Florida is leaning into the retired and populist factions of the GOP, ba…

Is populism when politicians claim to care about little people issues instead of making economy arrow go up?

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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post #26

Claims in the lawsuit seem sketchy, and I don't think they will win. It is probably not true that ChatGPT has resulted in an increase in murders and suicides, and certainly it would be very difficult to prove liability on OpenAI for this. It reminds me of the campaign in the 90s against video game manufacturers for "corrupting the youth". But I also don't think they expect to win. They just want to show that they're…

> certainly it would be very difficult to prove liability on OpenAI for this My understanding is that OpenAI products specifically provided help in planning attacks / self harm.

Full transcripts are unfortunately not available for any of those cases, but from what I've found it provided general information about e.g. how to load and operate a firearm or how past mass shootings have been received in the media.

The way I see it, providing general information is not a crime. They're basically saying: "Oh no! My repository of all human knowledge contains all human knowledge! It must be defective!"

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals Source? It’s been an open secret in academia and medicine that professors [1] and doctors [2] are fleeing Texas’s political climate. [1] https://www.texastribune.org/2025/09/05/texas-faculty-univer... [2] https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/08/Texas-obstetrics-gyn...

[1] is incredibly vague. Professors of what specifically? Computer science? Feminist theory? The second doesn't produce 'educated professionals'.

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Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

#36
The decoder ring is to compare objections to AI with the equivalent for the written word. These seem to be close for common ones like

  aiding and abetting violence: books on the topic since the 5th century BCE
  economic disruption: like the printing press
  copyright theft: printing tech also makes that far easier
  displaces creativity: this was Socrates' objection to reading and writing
  misinformation: both techs turbocharge all info, correct or not
  environmental impact: e.g. deforestation
  amplifies bias: this is a common purpose of writing things down  
  atrophy of skills: Socrates said reading would damage memory skills
  concentration of power: writing was tightly controlled by powerful interests for their leverage and protection
Unless you also want to roll back writing and reading, the starting point for critiques of AI should be the differences in threat between it and writing. A difference in magnitude is a minimum. If you also think that writing was a mistake, I honor your consistency.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

#37

Claims in the lawsuit seem sketchy, and I don't think they will win. It is probably not true that ChatGPT has resulted in an increase in murders and suicides, and certainly it would be very difficult to prove liability on OpenAI for this. It reminds me of the campaign in the 90s against video game manufacturers for "corrupting the youth". But I also don't think they expect to win. They just want to show that they're…

This is closer to the cases where girlfriends or spouses spent weeks trying to get their person to kill themself. Having a clearly defined log of repeatedly telling someone how and to kill themself is to my non lawyer eyes just the teeniest bit worse.

I’m no lawyer though so maybe potato po-kill your spouse with a claw hammer-tato. They do sound very similar. Please tell me more.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals and Florida is a hub for non-college retirees

> Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals Source? It’s been an open secret in academia and medicine that professors [1] and doctors [2] are fleeing Texas’s political climate. [1] https://www.texastribune.org/2025/09/05/texas-faculty-univer... [2] https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/08/Texas-obstetrics-gyn...

The interesting thing about living in a big city in Texas (and now basically all the big cities in TX lean left, not just Austin) is that the tension between city governments and the state, while frustrating at times and definitely dangerous for certain populations (I know folks with transgender kids who have moved out of TX solely for that reason), actually provides something of a decent balance that is appealing to a lot of educated professionals. I feel like a lot of the worst impulses of Dem-run cities get moderated in TX compared to west coast, Dem-run states.

For example, you can look at the housing crises in most CA cities brought on by NIMBY liberal policies, and while Austin is still very expensive, they (IMO) took the only sane approach to skyrocketing housing costs by actually building a shit ton of housing over the past few years. Austin passed a plastic bag ban a while back that was eventually overturned by the state legislature, but in the meantime a lot of people still bring their own reusable bags (stores can still charge for bags) and I've noticed much less bag pollution in creaks and streams compared to 15 years ago.

Of course, it remains to be seen what happens in the near future. The Republican party in TX is now fully showing their complete moral bankruptcy by nominating the criminal Ken Paxton for Senate, so we'll see if they fall further down the personality cult or if they eventually break.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

#39

The decoder ring is to compare objections to AI with the equivalent for the written word. These seem to be close for common ones like aiding and abetting violence: books on the topic since the 5th century BCE economic disruption: like the printing press copyright theft: printing tech also makes that far easier displaces creativity: this was Socrates' objection to reading and writing misinformation: both techs turboch…

> decoder ring is to compare objections to AI with the equivalent for the written word

Why? Like, people doing fraud is an instance of the written and spoken word. That doesn’t mean every argument against fraudsters should be leveled against speech.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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This take seems particularly crackpot. If gun manufacturers can't be sued for product liability when used to fire bullets into people, it's rich to say that the manufacturer of a chatbot can be found liable when it mindlessly says "Good point" to people who already have serious mental health problems.

If so, would this program also open me up to liability in Florida?

  const platitudes = ['Good point!', 'You're absolutely right.', 'I agree, let's explore this idea further.', 'This plan is a good idea'];

  var prompt;
  var response = "Hello, AI here, how can I help you?";
  while (true) {
    prompt = window.prompt(response);
    response = platitudes[Math.floor(Math.random() * platitudes.length)];
  }
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