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A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark

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Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark

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Post by benbayard »

quatonion wrote: post #25

A Ryzen 9 laptop with 24GB of RAM and a 5070 is £1200. This thing better be dirt cheap. Basically add the price of the RAM, and deduct the price of having to use ARM and being forced into a Windows ecosystem. So what's that total? £1500 to £2000 depending on who you ask? Who is this for? Not gamers, not average Windows users, not professional developers or content creators. Thing is, hardly any games are optimized fo…

An M5 pro max with 128gb of RAM is $5200 so I’d expect some kind of price in that range.

I imagine it’s for AI researchers, professionals who work with models. Software engineers who want local models instead of cloud models.

To be honest, I don’t think it’ll be very popular with those demographics. But I think a company like Microsoft investing in local AI is a good thing.

Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark

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Post by znpy »

adithyassekhar wrote: post #10
kotaKat wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sooooo they binned all their old DGX Spark crap to pawn on poor clueless consumers to try to be an ARM fighter and probably still fail miserably behind Apple Silicon and even likely older Qualcomm metal running Windows. And Mediatek ? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box.

> And Mediatek? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box. If by compromised you mean “china bad”, mediatek is taiwanese not chinese. Same home as asus, asrock, tsmc, htc, acer, d link, adata, biostar, insyde, gskill, foxconn, realtek and many others. From the chip to bios in your pc probably. If you mean quality, they make efficient and more powerful chipsets especially gpu wise compared to qualcomm…

That’s your interiorised racism talking, bro.

Mediatek used to make a lot of low-quality cpus for cheap and short-lifespanned products (eg: those cheap tablets that are essentially useless as soon as they hit the market)

Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark

#33

Post by Danox »

gizajob wrote: post #7
kotaKat wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sooooo they binned all their old DGX Spark crap to pawn on poor clueless consumers to try to be an ARM fighter and probably still fail miserably behind Apple Silicon and even likely older Qualcomm metal running Windows. And Mediatek ? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box.

It’s kind of irrelevant that they might be behind apple silicon because they’re targeting the non-apple, windows-using, section of the laptop market with a chip that can ostensibly be used for running AI models locally. Whether there’s much appetite for business users doing that remains to be seen.

The problem isn’t the chip. The problem is Windows and the level of Microsoft support going forward and right now Microsoft is preoccupied/distracted with Copilot.

That is the main problem that Qualcomm having currently with Microsoft.

Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark

#34

Post by Danox »

bigtex wrote: post #9
torginus wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why this isn't bigger news - this is a laptop SoC with actual gaming hardware running on ARM - unlike Apple's M series, which tend to have rather underwhelming perf in games compared to what the specs would suggest, finally we can have a thin-and-light with an efficient gaming GPU. Considering how much Valve invested into ARM emulation, it's quite possible the next Steam Deck/handheld will use a va…

Well, we don't have any information on cost, battery life or performance yet, which all matter. Could very well run laps around the M series at half the battery life and twice the cost.

Doubtful the slug in the room is Microsoft’s actual support see Qualcomm’s experience, not what Microsoft says in a media guide but what their actual support is when the hardware hits the street.

Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark

#35

Post by Danox »

benbayard wrote: post #31
quatonion wrote: post #25

A Ryzen 9 laptop with 24GB of RAM and a 5070 is £1200. This thing better be dirt cheap. Basically add the price of the RAM, and deduct the price of having to use ARM and being forced into a Windows ecosystem. So what's that total? £1500 to £2000 depending on who you ask? Who is this for? Not gamers, not average Windows users, not professional developers or content creators. Thing is, hardly any games are optimized fo…

An M5 pro max with 128gb of RAM is $5200 so I’d expect some kind of price in that range. I imagine it’s for AI researchers, professionals who work with models. Software engineers who want local models instead of cloud models. To be honest, I don’t think it’ll be very popular with those demographics. But I think a company like Microsoft investing in local AI is a good thing.

Look to be disappointed Microsoft is all in on Copilot AI after having spent billions of dollars. It is boom or bust for Satya Nadella.

Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark

#38

Post by 1970-01-01 »

petterroea wrote: post #5

This reads as lip service for investors with no real life value. "Remember guys, we are still AI frontier material!"

Here's a fun game. Try and match the Microsoft statement to the OS version or year.

"A powerful new chapter"

"A major leap in graphics, performance, and usability"

"The most secure version of Windows ever"

"The most productive Windows ever"

"The Most Powerful Operating System Ever"

Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark

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Post by petterroea »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #38
petterroea wrote: post #5

This reads as lip service for investors with no real life value. "Remember guys, we are still AI frontier material!"

Here's a fun game. Try and match the Microsoft statement to the OS version or year. "A powerful new chapter" "A major leap in graphics, performance, and usability" "The most secure version of Windows ever" "The most productive Windows ever" "The Most Powerful Operating System Ever"

haha i sure hope it's the newest Windows which is the most

Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark

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Post by marbro »

znpy wrote: post #32
adithyassekhar wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And Mediatek? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box. If by compromised you mean “china bad”, mediatek is taiwanese not chinese. Same home as asus, asrock, tsmc, htc, acer, d link, adata, biostar, insyde, gskill, foxconn, realtek and many others. From the chip to bios in your pc probably. If you mean quality, they make efficient and more powerful chipsets especially gpu wise compared to qualcomm…

That’s your interiorised racism talking, bro. Mediatek used to make a lot of low-quality cpus for cheap and short-lifespanned products (eg: those cheap tablets that are essentially useless as soon as they hit the market)

The Internet is anonymous so that bigots don't know the gender of the poster, bro.
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