Live data from Hacker News

Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

consumerrights.wiki

31–40 of 401 posts

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

#32

So, do I just disable updates? How do I do that?

As described, the licensing system will fail you into readonly locally unless you subscribe Office Clippy 365, buy Office 2024, apply Office 2021 updates, or (not listed) apply third-party licensing cracks for Office 2019.

Presumably we’ll know soon if network firewalling the licensing server helps, but I expect it’ll just delay the intentional failure by a few months at best.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

#33
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it wasn't which is worse, meaning Microsoft despite being in the top 10 most valuable companies in the world can't even get these basic details right. I think assuming this was intentional is actually giving Microsoft the benefit of the doubt tbh.

do you like, not understand how capitalism does to tech

The semantic function of modulators like "maybe" and "I think" implies the statement is hypothetical. My comment was intended to subvert the expectations around the intentionality behind Microsoft actions to make it look even worse than it is. It's got nothing to do with the enshitification of products in closed software immersed in our current economic ethos. I hope this clarifies my "understanding of [what] capitalism does to tech".

But I'm fun at parties, I swear :P

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

#34
post #26
post #14

I believe the urgent deprecation timeline here may be related to ai labs using offline licensed Office in agents as part of workflows and Office integration. Microsoft wants _each_ agent instance to be a separate license[0] There was always a probability that Microsoft were going to funnel offline users into O365 at some point - but I imagined that to take place over months / years not weeks and days. Buying a single…

These are single-machine licenses. I doubt thousands of agents can run on a single machine.

Unless you snapshot a VM and run clones of it.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

#35
post #26
post #14

I believe the urgent deprecation timeline here may be related to ai labs using offline licensed Office in agents as part of workflows and Office integration. Microsoft wants _each_ agent instance to be a separate license[0] There was always a probability that Microsoft were going to funnel offline users into O365 at some point - but I imagined that to take place over months / years not weeks and days. Buying a single…

These are single-machine licenses. I doubt thousands of agents can run on a single machine.

How do you define a single machine?

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

#36

When the pirated version is truer to the original contract than the official version. What a time to be alive.

Could be as little as a one-byte difference to patch out the expiry check.

Sometimes one bit.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

#37

When the pirated version is truer to the original contract than the official version. What a time to be alive.

Could be as little as a one-byte difference to patch out the expiry check.

Damn, you could create an illegal number by sharing an offset+value.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

#38
post #14

I believe the urgent deprecation timeline here may be related to ai labs using offline licensed Office in agents as part of workflows and Office integration. Microsoft wants _each_ agent instance to be a separate license[0] There was always a probability that Microsoft were going to funnel offline users into O365 at some point - but I imagined that to take place over months / years not weeks and days. Buying a single…

> Windows and Android versions of Office are not affected by the certificate expiry.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

#39

So, do I just disable updates? How do I do that?

No, the problem is the software has an internal certificate that is about to expire.

This is exactly the sort of scenario where I do not feel bad at all tracking down an online crack that disables the certificate check.

That said, it is probably not in Microsoft's best interest for people to have a legitimate reason to discover how much easier life can be if you pirate software.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be as little as a one-byte difference to patch out the expiry check.

Damn, you could create an illegal number by sharing an offset+value.

Or indeed an illegal LLM prompt: "/goal locate and patch out the licensing check"
Post reply on HN