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Let's talk about EU Sovereignty (2025)

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Re: Let's talk about EU Sovereignty (2025)

#32

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> And I doubt there ever will be because who would even build it? My money would be on the French.

The French are second to everything + they strip naked the CEOs they hate (the Air France event and the series of CEOs taken hostage in the 1990ies) = They would never align themselves to build something that makes money. DailyMotion is 1/1000th what Youtube is; Mistral is 1/1000th what OpenAI is, nothing has changed in 20 years. Sure France would spend the money. We’d see none of the results.

They did that already see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudwatt or Numergy.

Re: Let's talk about EU Sovereignty (2025)

#33

Sovereignty erodes with giving control to outside entities. I just came to Netherlands for a short visit and oh my god how much better the food is (comparing to Canada mostly). Please, please stay sovereign.

> came to Netherlands for a short visit and oh my god how much better the food is

I really don't want to know what the food is like where you came from, but it may be a WMD test or something. You should get human rights activists and lawyers working on it.

Re: Let's talk about EU Sovereignty (2025)

#35
post #23

If an EU company refuses to play ball with the US, the US can simply compel the company through sanctions, as it is trying to do with ICC judges. Travel bans, visa/mastercard, debanking, the whole nine yards.

Visa/Mastercard are almost obsolete in most EU countries. If they disappeared there is multitude of better options than ancient cards.

What, like electronic payments using phones running American operating systems? With the bonus that you have two new gatekeepers that can lock your citizens out (Apple and Google).

Re: Let's talk about EU Sovereignty (2025)

#36

Sovereignty erodes with giving control to outside entities. I just came to Netherlands for a short visit and oh my god how much better the food is (comparing to Canada mostly). Please, please stay sovereign.

Now imagine Netherlands has a reputation in Europe as having the most bland and utilitarian cuisine.

Re: Let's talk about EU Sovereignty (2025)

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree, "cloud" is extracting basic Linux functions into as many proprietary services as possible because businesses would rather deal with obscure YAML configurations than ever having to touch Linux-proper.

I would say the most added value, keeping your angle, is auto-updating Linux, and assuming/handling the security vulnerabilities updates.

I'm sure the vast majority of businesses can handle ~10 min of scheduled downtime per week necessary to restart everything.

Now, database replication, not having to waste time to run/maintain clusters (be it Kubernetes or Elastic stack or something else), that I believe is well worth the money to offload to someone else, but even there you can get a much cheaper deal with someone that's not one of the three big cloud providers. I will also concede that Firebase is genuinely nicer to work with than its alternatives (Supabase very much included).

Re: Let's talk about EU Sovereignty (2025)

#38
This was not a thing one year ago, but now it is really part of the conversation. In our company the goal is to reduce by two thirds our expenses in digital services by focusing on self hosting and European alternatives. Is it inconvenient? Mildly so, but for most things there are alternatives available once you start looking into them

Re: Let's talk about EU Sovereignty (2025)

#39
post #34

Is it really "EU" Sovereignty? And not its member's Sovereignty?

Such heresy is detrimental to EU sovereignty... next you're going to remind people that some states are in the EU despite their citizens having opposed going in there.

TBH, EU member states can be plenty oppressive when they want to, so - why not just take it to the next level and have all-European overlords?

Re: Let's talk about EU Sovereignty (2025)

#40

Sovereignty erodes with giving control to outside entities. I just came to Netherlands for a short visit and oh my god how much better the food is (comparing to Canada mostly). Please, please stay sovereign.

Things which very rarely receive compliments in the Netherlands haha

If you like Dutch food, your tastebuds might literally explode when you encounter real French or Italian cuisine lol

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