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Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by pqtyw »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #18
manytimesaway wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, making obsolete hardware relevant by using the technology that's accelerating their "irrelevanceness" ?

How is AI making old hardware obsolete faster?

If anything it's the opposite (by making new hardware unaffordable)

Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by simgt »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #15
simgt wrote: post #5

Cool! I've been wondering for some time if a good low-distraction but pleasant environment could be an old Mac OS on a (good looking) Hackintosh. The UI was baked with UX research at least.

It's a significantly newer Mac OS than Mac OS 9, but this is basically my life. Mavericksforever.com.

That's awesome, thanks for sharing.

Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by gazook89 »

mplsllc wrote: post #26

Hey everyone! This is my project, I've been working really hard (yes using AI to help) for about two months straight now. I am not just letting it be, I am going to keep tooling with it every day to make it better and better. The latest version uses real, third-party verified, TLS 1.3 so I am pushing all the limits that I can. Thanks for sharing!

Always surprising but fun to see a "MPLS" MN state flag graphic in some random github readme. Then I see the username "mplsllc" :) Hello neighbor!

Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by grishka »

I always enjoy it when someone makes "obsolete" hardware natively talk to modern network services that it was never meant to talk to. And bringing an entire browser to a system this old is a serious achievement. I don't own any hardware that can run classic Mac OS, but I'm gonna try it on an emulator later, really curious how it handles several of my own websites.

Though the fact that the author uses AI is kinda meh.

Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by grishka »

felixding wrote: post #6
Cyan488 wrote: post #3

When I owned a iMac G3, the Classilla browser was surprisingly good. Looks like development ended in 2021. Also, the branding was "Mac OS 9".

Exactly. I don't know why some people'd change the branding.

HN has this thing where it would automatically "fix" submission titles.

Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by manytimesaway »

pndy wrote: post #21
manytimesaway wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, making obsolete hardware relevant by using the technology that's accelerating their "irrelevanceness" ?

You are aware that there's a huge retrocomputing community around the world that with hearts and passion preserves old machines and software?

Being part of it myself, I think I've heard of it.

But I fail to understand how using the very thing that's shortening hardware life nowadays is "passionate". Different values I presume.

Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by manytimesaway »

pqtyw wrote: post #31
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is AI making old hardware obsolete faster?

If anything it's the opposite (by making new hardware unaffordable)

Prices for retro hardware are going up due to hoarders & sometimes social effect, too.

Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by matt123456789 »

Somewhere in Korea there's an industrial overhead crane tracked across an entire 5-story warehouse, operated from a G3 in a network that is about to implement web-based zero trust. It has a twin in Japan. You have just extended the life of these two perfectly functional $100M investments.

Do I know this to be true? No. But I do not know it to be false, either.

Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by wolrah »

simgt wrote: post #5

Cool! I've been wondering for some time if a good low-distraction but pleasant environment could be an old Mac OS on a (good looking) Hackintosh. The UI was baked with UX research at least.

This is Mac OS 9, which is pre-hackintosh. The term "hackintosh" refers to running x86 versions of Mac OS X on non-Mac x86 systems, where OS 9 was exclusive to PowerPC.

Re: Macsurf, "modern" web browser for macOS 9

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Post by rekabis »

manoDev wrote: post #13

That's impressive, too bad modern web requires more than 2000x the transistor density to run JS at decent speed. We really f*** up.

WebAssembly can run without needing an interpreter, as it’s a binary and not a scripted language.

May JS die a quick death so that WebAssembly can take its place.

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