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Just ban LLM. It's events for human beings, not LLMs.
Agreed, it is not a AstroTurf marketing event for hype. zig is a cool language, and worth learning about. =3
(I know nothing about Zig, but I wanted to directly appreciate your accuracy of word usage regardless :)
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Let me fix your logical fallacy of composition: " * Excitement from people who are able to [unaccountably plagerize] things they could not, * Fear from people who's [business IP rights] are threatened, * [overt copyright theft from] artists [and chat bot users] whose work is being ripped off, * [well funded denigration of] activists looking out for ecosystems & the climate. " Thankfully LLM are not real "AI", and mod…
Why do people insist on using extreme rhetoric like this? If you don't personally like using LLMs, that's fine. The only point this comment serves is to stir the pot. Using your first example, if it was true and universally accepted that this was plaigerism--we wouldn't use it, now would we? But that's not the universal opinion so instead you're just twisting someone else's comment to stir the pot. Again, if you don'…
People need to be reminded of reality in their newspeak bubble.
>My recommendation is also to not choose an extreme approach (e.g. by completely banning LLM-related discourse) unless you feel very strongly about it. Organizers are allowed to ban the mention of certain programming topics? I could understand if it was a topic that was adjacent to violence/harassment/sensitive stuff, but come on... are anti-AI groups becoming a cult?
Point being: just because a thing technically fits the genre does not mean it is something that the audience wants to listen to.
LLMs are just pushed by everyone at us, people just can't stand hearing about it anymore even if they use it and find it helpful. It's like at PyCon2026 the keynote was about LLM, and people were just leaving in the middle, including GvR.
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I think you misread that. He's recommending not completely banning the subject.
the part the parent appears to be commenting on is: " [...] unless you feel very strongly about it. " i.e. complete ban is okay if the organizer feels very strongly about it.
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Let me fix your logical fallacy of composition: " * Excitement from people who are able to [unaccountably plagerize] things they could not, * Fear from people who's [business IP rights] are threatened, * [overt copyright theft from] artists [and chat bot users] whose work is being ripped off, * [well funded denigration of] activists looking out for ecosystems & the climate. " Thankfully LLM are not real "AI", and mod…
Why do people insist on using extreme rhetoric like this? If you don't personally like using LLMs, that's fine. The only point this comment serves is to stir the pot. Using your first example, if it was true and universally accepted that this was plaigerism--we wouldn't use it, now would we? But that's not the universal opinion so instead you're just twisting someone else's comment to stir the pot. Again, if you don'…
I simply narrowed the logical specificity of why LLM may be avoided in some use cases. No one can 100% prevent theft, as some people will decide personal desperation excuses philosophical compromises. It differs from a sociopath anti-social behavior, which is a constant aspect of civilizations. People can choose to be upset, or recognize it is a facet of some in "AI" gilded blitzscaling.
LLM are good at context search, and have other tangible use-cases that does not require constantly stealing from other people.
Have a wonderful day, =3
>My recommendation is also to not choose an extreme approach (e.g. by completely banning LLM-related discourse) unless you feel very strongly about it. Organizers are allowed to ban the mention of certain programming topics? I could understand if it was a topic that was adjacent to violence/harassment/sensitive stuff, but come on... are anti-AI groups becoming a cult?
Yes, organizers can do whatever they want. Their event, their rules. If you put in the work to run a Python meetup, you are free to ban discussion of tomatoes if you really want to. Conversely, those with tomato psychosis are free to avoid your event if they truly can't survive a few hours without talking about tomatoes.
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Agreed, it is not a AstroTurf marketing event for hype. zig is a cool language, and worth learning about. =3
That’s correct! Since Zig is openly sponsoring these events, it is indeed by definition not astroturfing, which is only applicable with a hidden/lying sponsor. (I know nothing about Zig, but I wanted to directly appreciate your accuracy of word usage regardless :)
Approaching significant change with humanity asks us to have empathy for many emotions at once. With respect to LLMs & other generative models those include but aren't limited to: * Excitement from people who are able to make things they could not, * Fear from people who's livelihoods are threatened, * Betrayal from artists whose work is being ripped off, * Alarm from activists looking out for ecosystems & the climat…
Let me fix your logical fallacy of composition: " * Excitement from people who are able to [unaccountably plagerize] things they could not, * Fear from people who's [business IP rights] are threatened, * [overt copyright theft from] artists [and chat bot users] whose work is being ripped off, * [well funded denigration of] activists looking out for ecosystems & the climate. " Thankfully LLM are not real "AI", and mod…
All that said, I personally unequivocally agree with each of your points. I hope you are channeling this rage not only into comments sections but also into the hard work of tearing down & replacing the many incumbent systems that plagerize, denigrate, steal, oppress, monopolize, waste, & enslave. I certainly am.
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Why do people insist on using extreme rhetoric like this? If you don't personally like using LLMs, that's fine. The only point this comment serves is to stir the pot. Using your first example, if it was true and universally accepted that this was plaigerism--we wouldn't use it, now would we? But that's not the universal opinion so instead you're just twisting someone else's comment to stir the pot. Again, if you don'…
Joel_Mckay is responding to a glib comment that sugarcoats and trivializes the theft. Just like you do. People need to be reminded of reality in their newspeak bubble.