The output buckets are also pretty questionable- the difference between "True" and "Mostly true" is pretty fuzzy. Is this marked as a "disagreement"?
Disagreement among frontier LLMs on real-world fact-checks
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#32...son of a bitch
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#33Here's the prompt they used: Classify this claim as of : " " Output exactly one label: True, Mostly True, Misleading, or False. No explanations, no qualifiers. The claims look like this: https://lenz.io/research/llm-disagreement/data.csv I put that in Datasette Lite to make it easier to explore. Here's an example of a disagreement: https://lite.datasette.io/?csv=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.simonwil... The claim was "All alm…
I don’t understand your point. That claim is factually false and as such it’s easy to logically reply “false”. What’s the nuance here? I can’t see any
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#34This is an odd one. The paper is real, but was written by Claude? I am assuming OP is human, but also appears to be using Claude to post.
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#35Here's the prompt they used: Classify this claim as of : " " Output exactly one label: True, Mostly True, Misleading, or False. No explanations, no qualifiers. The claims look like this: https://lenz.io/research/llm-disagreement/data.csv I put that in Datasette Lite to make it easier to explore. Here's an example of a disagreement: https://lite.datasette.io/?csv=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.simonwil... The claim was "All alm…
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Data collection and processing was done manually. LLMs helped with the report drafting. Everything was human reviewed before publishing.
So it's not a secret, why you don't add this upfront to the report? The report itself is even about LLMs, makes a lot of sense to disclose your usage of them for writing the report, especially when you're presenting evidence that boils down to LLMs being infallible.
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#37Here's the prompt they used: Classify this claim as of : " " Output exactly one label: True, Mostly True, Misleading, or False. No explanations, no qualifiers. The claims look like this: https://lenz.io/research/llm-disagreement/data.csv I put that in Datasette Lite to make it easier to explore. Here's an example of a disagreement: https://lite.datasette.io/?csv=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.simonwil... The claim was "All alm…
If LLM’s are really supposed to be as consistently useful as they’re made out to be they should all spit out “false.”
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#38It said the airport code didn't exist
I mean, I get the "knowledge cut off date" and whatnot, but for that sort of thing, you'd think they'd check live information before gaslighting the user, specially since it's a "live" task anyway.
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#39Here's the prompt they used: Classify this claim as of : " " Output exactly one label: True, Mostly True, Misleading, or False. No explanations, no qualifiers. The claims look like this: https://lenz.io/research/llm-disagreement/data.csv I put that in Datasette Lite to make it easier to explore. Here's an example of a disagreement: https://lite.datasette.io/?csv=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.simonwil... The claim was "All alm…
Without providing definitions of "True / Mostly True / Misleading / False" to each rater, I rate the article's claim that "Only one verdict bucket can be correct per claim" as false . Something can be simultaneously "misleading" and either true or false. Which category should something go in if it's "mostly false"? How much can something be wrong before it goes from "mostly true" to "false" (objectively, both have so…
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#40Here's the prompt they used: Classify this claim as of : " " Output exactly one label: True, Mostly True, Misleading, or False. No explanations, no qualifiers. The claims look like this: https://lenz.io/research/llm-disagreement/data.csv I put that in Datasette Lite to make it easier to explore. Here's an example of a disagreement: https://lite.datasette.io/?csv=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.simonwil... The claim was "All alm…
False vs misleading doesn't seem like a disagreement?