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iPhones with iOS 26 are freezing FaceTime calls when they detect nudity (2025)

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Re: iPhones with iOS 26 are freezing FaceTime calls when they detect nudity (2025)

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I truly don't understand why our society is so hung up on naked bodies.

US is particularly interesting here because it is hyper sexualised, but show a nipple and you go to jail.

Same with violence, it's everywhere, but if you punch or slap someone there's huge chance of getting shot or guaranteed jail time.

Re: iPhones with iOS 26 are freezing FaceTime calls when they detect nudity (2025)

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This “Ouch” moments when Apple does not want to stand in the front of the Congress trying to prove that they are in fact preventing bad people from abusing kids on one side and try to convince us that they do in fact keep our data secure. It an interesting place to be in logistically. A very thin line to balance between two very bitter ends.

After Snowden, I don't believe anything an American corporation says.

Re: iPhones with iOS 26 are freezing FaceTime calls when they detect nudity (2025)

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Look how far we've regressed. Forty years ago if the phone company said it was going to spy on conversations and halt phone sex but don't worry because you can always choose to resume it, we'd never have accepted that.

Apple claims its on-device, and if thats true then the phone company is not spying on users.

Apple claims "Apple is the best".

Re: iPhones with iOS 26 are freezing FaceTime calls when they detect nudity (2025)

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The backdrop to this is a story from 2023 in which Apple attempted to do this and faced backlash. This received significant coverage worldwide at the time. https://www.wired.com/story/apple-photo-scanning-csam-commun...

Yeah, it's clear to see that they'd want to get in front of something like that happening again. My point though is that the pull quote I highlighted is a flimsy reassurance because "it all happens on the device" does not at all prevent "Apple knowing about it," yet the sentence is constructed in a way that (tricks?) people into thinking it would.

That’s true of of every privacy guarantee made by all software. For example: the only guarantee we have that Tor Browser isn’t phoning home usage statistics is 1) that people are inspecting its outbound network traffic with a magnifying glass, and it isn’t; 2) and so over time their guarantee has been accepted as trustworthy. So, no curing assurance can ever be made to the point you’re concerned about, other than to recommend not using software if one assigns high priority to this threat model. So, then, as someone who does, it would be useful to understand your viewpoint in a more concrete/applied sense. I have a handful of questions:

How would you rewrite Apple’s copy to reflect this universal threat? Would you advise GrapheneOS to adopt similar copy (since the concern is equally applicable, what with five nines of users not self-compiling from inspected source) to chip away at Apple’s marketing here? Is your concern restricted to ‘nudity-encountered’ metrics (as in the topic of this post) or is it generic to all ‘xyz-encountered’ metrics, or to all metrics, or..?

Re: iPhones with iOS 26 are freezing FaceTime calls when they detect nudity (2025)

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Yeah, it's clear to see that they'd want to get in front of something like that happening again. My point though is that the pull quote I highlighted is a flimsy reassurance because "it all happens on the device" does not at all prevent "Apple knowing about it," yet the sentence is constructed in a way that (tricks?) people into thinking it would.

That’s true of of every privacy guarantee made by all software. For example: the only guarantee we have that Tor Browser isn’t phoning home usage statistics is 1) that people are inspecting its outbound network traffic with a magnifying glass, and it isn’t; 2) and so over time their guarantee has been accepted as trustworthy. So, no curing assurance can ever be made to the point you’re concerned about, other than to…

You misunderstood and it's really simple. Implying that on-device scanning makes it impossible for them to access any information is misleading. Just drop that faulty reasoning because it creates a dangerous misunderstanding of how technology works.

To illustrate: Because I wrote this comment, the sun is going to rise again tomorrow.

Re: iPhones with iOS 26 are freezing FaceTime calls when they detect nudity (2025)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple claims its on-device, and if thats true then the phone company is not spying on users.

Apple claims "Apple is the best".

Sure, its reasonable to doubt Apple's claim here. Or even think that its accurate now but may change in the future. I'd probably phrase it as a possibility rather than treat it as fait accompli.
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