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Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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Post by uniqueuid »

_ink_ wrote: post #19
uniqueuid wrote: post #12

Before this blows up: - The world has very diverse ideas about how media regulation works. Germany has a strong public service broadcast tradition that is constitutionally anchored. You may not like it, but that's the cultural and legal tradition and changing it is not easily done. Please respect that especially coming from a country with a more liberal tradition (and perhaps a less functional media system, e.g. in t…

To back up your third point, here is a study of the political bias in the German public service broadcasters (in German): https://web.archive.org/web/20240207032743/https://polkom.if...

Thanks, that's a great point. I know a huge amount of the literature exactly in this area, and I'm honestly still pretty skeptical of the theoretical idea of the diversity principle. Mostly because there doesn't seem to be a good consensus what actually is a good amount of diversity.

But in practical terms, while there are some very obvious gaps and biases, I think the German media system is still pretty good in a lot of ways and everybody does have a lot of freedom.

I'd even go so far as to say - the typical accusations of censorship are mostly from right-wing actors who are not censored, but who demand more views and make a spectacle out of claiming to be censored.

Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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Post by pfdietz »

gruez wrote: post #31
pfdietz wrote: post #18

Time and again Europe makes me appreciate the First Amendment.

Great in theory, bad in practice. See for instance, the administration's obvious meddling in the CBS/Skydance merger.

Now consider all the horror it has prevented. But that requires seeing things that aren't there, so superficially you don't consider it.

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Post by gyanchawdhary »

stunning to watch one of the countries the world owes so much to in terms of scientific and intellectual progress drift toward something this dumb .. if the reporting is accurate.

I lived in Hamburg for thrre years, and the town center constantly felt like a stage for some protest .. activist NGO campaign .. or ideological cause., .. and every time you mentioned it .. folks would respond with the same almost predictable utterence about how “protest is part of German democratic tradition” and how proud they are of it ..

what was interesting though was that privately, a lot of them quietly agreed with my observations .. especially coming from an Indian guy, because they knew I wasn’t coming at it from some stereotypical right wing European angle...

Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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Post by EA-3167 »

illiac786 wrote: post #28
pfdietz wrote: post #18

Time and again Europe makes me appreciate the First Amendment.

Yeah, it’s working out pretty well.

Oh yeah, you'd definitely want the TRUMP administration in control of what we all get to express and who we can associate with.

As miserable as this admin is, it's also a great example of why some powers shouldn't be in the government's hands.

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Post by ihaveajob »

on_the_train wrote: post #10
benmarten wrote: post #5

This is not only undemocratic, but it’s essentially a mild form of censorship.

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If this story is true, this is definitely a step in the wrong direction, but comparing freedom of Germany and China in those terms takes some special kind of mind bending.

Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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Post by illiac786 »

EA-3167 wrote: post #36
illiac786 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it’s working out pretty well.

Oh yeah, you'd definitely want the TRUMP administration in control of what we all get to express and who we can associate with. As miserable as this admin is, it's also a great example of why some powers shouldn't be in the government's hands.

I agree, I meant the first amendment ain’t working like it should. It’s more or a “I can talk trash about whoever I want unless they have powerful lawyers” rule of thumb nowadays.
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