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Re: Built AI forensic accounting software with my dad

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There is nothing to Show HN (1). 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

True, but it's still a cool story, no?

Sure, it can still be on the front page if it's a good post (i.e., gratifies intellectual curiosity) but it can't be a Show HN if users can't play with it.

Re: Built AI forensic accounting software with my dad

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Edit: OK, I'll remove the snark fairly called out by dvt: There is something very concerning about this article: submitting private information to LLMs w/no privacy guarantees is probably a crime. I strongly recommend taking down this article and that you stop submitting private information to LLMs with no privacy guarantees until you have spoken with an informed lawyer on this matter. Local models may be of assistan…

Too bad dvt deleted their comment calling your comment a low effort and negative, because your point is valid.

Unless OP is using hosted models, especially those with always-on training, that's quite clear cut breaking at least privacy laws, likely more, especially if the court documents are additionally protected.

So that's basically showing the HN how egregiously a number of lawyers, accountants and paralegals "conspire" to break the law in order to process more cases in parallel and earn more money.

I think that's pretty accurate?

If OPs father doesn't want to do it manually they must at least run it locally, or obtain the court permission to share the privileged information with a number of third parties, possibly shoving it into the future corpus of information.

Re: Built AI forensic accounting software with my dad

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Edit: OK, I'll remove the snark fairly called out by dvt: There is something very concerning about this article: submitting private information to LLMs w/no privacy guarantees is probably a crime. I strongly recommend taking down this article and that you stop submitting private information to LLMs with no privacy guarantees until you have spoken with an informed lawyer on this matter. Local models may be of assistan…

Too bad dvt deleted their comment calling your comment a low effort and negative, because your point is valid. Unless OP is using hosted models, especially those with always-on training, that's quite clear cut breaking at least privacy laws, likely more, especially if the court documents are additionally protected. So that's basically showing the HN how egregiously a number of lawyers, accountants and paralegals "con…

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Re: Built AI forensic accounting software with my dad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a lot of accountants. One is a chief accounting officer at a medium-sized tech company and she has already replaced about 5 people in her org with AI. She says she sees a lot of low hanging fruit in finance that will be replaced by AI at her company, by her specifically. I know another partner at Big 4 that is going heavy into AI usage as well. The idea that AI isn't good in finance and accounting is a myth.

Lmao this is absolute nonsense. First of all accounting as a whole is incredibly broad. The fact you don’t recognise that in your post with nuance shows you have zero clue what you are talking about. E.g llm’s are useless in tax auditing. How do I know this? My brother is a partner at pwc.

You are confidently uneducated in both finance and accounting. Dunning-Kruger is in full effect.

Re: Built AI forensic accounting software with my dad

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Why is it that every "I built a cool AI tool" author shared on this site can't be bothered to write the article themselves? I'd be more likely to give credence to how great your slop is if you were at least invested enough to write the dang article yourself. Here is my hot take. AI is going to replace some developers (not all) and the first ones it replaces will be the ones who can't code without it. The developer in…

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Re: Built AI forensic accounting software with my dad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a lot of accountants. One is a chief accounting officer at a medium-sized tech company and she has already replaced about 5 people in her org with AI. She says she sees a lot of low hanging fruit in finance that will be replaced by AI at her company, by her specifically. I know another partner at Big 4 that is going heavy into AI usage as well. The idea that AI isn't good in finance and accounting is a myth.

Interesting how "low hanging fruit" always stops just below the level of the person doing the fruit picking. Check back with her when her own boss replaces her with an AI, and let us know how she feels about it.

Do you think that people should continue to be employed when their job is easily replaced by AI?

Re: Built AI forensic accounting software with my dad

#38
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think OP's being hyperbolic, but defending an idea that is dangerous at worst and immature at best doesn't do much to forward creativity, entrepreneurship, or engineering. Engineers who build products that put people (or their data) in danger are bad engineers. We need to hold one another to a higher standard.

> doesn't do much to forward creativity, entrepreneurship, or engineering Who are you (or who am I) to decide that? The entire point of a show HN is to be non-judgmental and charitable, otherwise it's just going to turn into a cynical echo-chamber. The famous Dropbox comment is a cautionary tale for a reason.

I could build the greatest healthcare tool in the world, but if it's not HIPAA compliant then it's worthless in the United States. More than that, if I built it without HIPAA compliance in mind as a first principle, what other mistakes did I make on the way?

I'm not trying to gatekeep and say that only domain experts should be allowed to build software, but part of being an engineer is doing due diligence to understand the domain well enough to build the product. If OP failed to recognize that any forensic accountant that gets caught uploading privileged documents into a random AI tool would be both breaking the chain of possession of that document AND client privilege, what other mistakes did they make along the way?

I went through the entire website and couldn't find a single mention about privacy. I'm not a domain expert, but I would expect the product site for any legal tool to at least have a disclaimer.

Re: Built AI forensic accounting software with my dad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a lot of accountants. One is a chief accounting officer at a medium-sized tech company and she has already replaced about 5 people in her org with AI. She says she sees a lot of low hanging fruit in finance that will be replaced by AI at her company, by her specifically. I know another partner at Big 4 that is going heavy into AI usage as well. The idea that AI isn't good in finance and accounting is a myth.

Interesting how "low hanging fruit" always stops just below the level of the person doing the fruit picking. Check back with her when her own boss replaces her with an AI, and let us know how she feels about it.

It will work its way up the chain slowly.

Junior-level ICs are on the chopping block now, and senior ICs + middle management are next

Re: Built AI forensic accounting software with my dad

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Edit: OK, I'll remove the snark fairly called out by dvt: There is something very concerning about this article: submitting private information to LLMs w/no privacy guarantees is probably a crime. I strongly recommend taking down this article and that you stop submitting private information to LLMs with no privacy guarantees until you have spoken with an informed lawyer on this matter. Local models may be of assistan…

Too bad dvt deleted their comment calling your comment a low effort and negative, because your point is valid. Unless OP is using hosted models, especially those with always-on training, that's quite clear cut breaking at least privacy laws, likely more, especially if the court documents are additionally protected. So that's basically showing the HN how egregiously a number of lawyers, accountants and paralegals "con…

if dvt is reading: yeah maybe too negative and it's true that I didn't type a lot, but I'm right on this and it's exposing this person and their dad to possible legal problems.
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