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Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by Rekindle8090 »

noosphr wrote: post #27
M4v3R wrote: post #21

This kind of behavior should be met with swift and strong reaction from both the school authorities and the law enforcement. Kids responsible should be put on trial and face serious consequences including jail time for most egregious cases. Let the news cover it nationwide. "This is what will happen if you even think about creating and circulating nude pics of anyone" should be the message sent. This is the only way…

Back in my father's day you'd get executed for drawing a dick on Stalin's forehead. It's nice to see people still care more about symbolic violence than actual violence.

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Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by d1sxeyes »

arkh wrote: post #22
ceheaaf wrote: post #2

Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…

> What's the defense? Prosecuting every one of those blackmailers. If this kind of crime starts going into the "you're gonna get caught and jailed 100%" category, less people will try it.

That's not a defence, that's a remedy.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by numbsafari »

noosphr wrote: post #27
M4v3R wrote: post #21

This kind of behavior should be met with swift and strong reaction from both the school authorities and the law enforcement. Kids responsible should be put on trial and face serious consequences including jail time for most egregious cases. Let the news cover it nationwide. "This is what will happen if you even think about creating and circulating nude pics of anyone" should be the message sent. This is the only way…

Back in my father's day you'd get executed for drawing a dick on Stalin's forehead. It's nice to see people still care more about symbolic violence than actual violence.

These are teenage girls, not adult men. This isn’t graffiti, but highly realistic sexual depictions.

There’s a massive difference.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by gorgoiler »

Even though they fluffed the messaging I think the school was right, in the absence of any actual deepfakes and even after the police department had scraped all the boys phones, to be wary of accusing anyone in particular of doing anything AI related. Kids are weird and one boy saying he “dropped $250” on making deepfakes of “that hoe” sounds as much like a brag about money than it could be about making fake videos. There’s clearly enough of a text message trail between these boys to give them a significant reprimand for misogyny.

The PD’s PR team changing their narrative seems to lack competence. The school board focusing on being light touch on a specific case instead of cracking down in general seems like another error of judgment. This whole article says more about the effectiveness and competency of cops and school boards as it does about generative imagery.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by _el1s7 »

Sharlin wrote: post #26
CalRobert wrote: post #20

I don't know how society will function when it's as easy to fake a video or image as it is to draw a stick figure. Hopefully it at least means that people view what happened here as akin to scribbling boobs on someone's photo, but we're not there yet apparently.

Hopefully we’ll get back to the time back when people didn’t have to worry about someone filming them all the time. Cameras cryptographically signing all photos and videos should become the standard. Media that cannot be traced back to real camera hardware should a priori be considered fake or tampered with. Still, deepfakes are partly a social problem and, as should be well known, social problems can rarely be solve…

That won't work, a camera can also photograph another screen or a fake printed photo. And also cryptographic modules can be cracked.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by b65e8bee43c2ed0 »

CalRobert wrote: post #20

I don't know how society will function when it's as easy to fake a video or image as it is to draw a stick figure. Hopefully it at least means that people view what happened here as akin to scribbling boobs on someone's photo, but we're not there yet apparently.

it functioned just fine for the past 50 years. digital manipulation of media had always been possible. americans simply didn't have a society-wide psychosis during the early days of personal computing and Internet.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by CalRobert »

prodigycorp wrote: post #28
CalRobert wrote: post #20

I don't know how society will function when it's as easy to fake a video or image as it is to draw a stick figure. Hopefully it at least means that people view what happened here as akin to scribbling boobs on someone's photo, but we're not there yet apparently.

Perhaps there is reason to be optimistic. If we believe nothing online, then digital inauthenticity may cause us to yearn more for authentic, in-person interactions. The modern web has not been without its warts. It's led society to some very unhealthy behaviors. It's telling that a lot of people think the internet is society, rather than a slice of it. Perhaps its decline is the correction society needed. It's easy…

Suddenly a polaroid feels better than any digital photo.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by Curosinono »

M4v3R wrote: post #21

This kind of behavior should be met with swift and strong reaction from both the school authorities and the law enforcement. Kids responsible should be put on trial and face serious consequences including jail time for most egregious cases. Let the news cover it nationwide. "This is what will happen if you even think about creating and circulating nude pics of anyone" should be the message sent. This is the only way…

I do agree that shit behavour should be met with direct reaction but lets be honest here the time and effort of doing this is 5 minutes.

A proper society should educate people about things they can't get rid of anymore.

And no you can't just put teenager, which have not fully formed brains yet, into prison for fake nudity

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by petesergeant »

_el1s7 wrote: post #35
Sharlin wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully we’ll get back to the time back when people didn’t have to worry about someone filming them all the time. Cameras cryptographically signing all photos and videos should become the standard. Media that cannot be traced back to real camera hardware should a priori be considered fake or tampered with. Still, deepfakes are partly a social problem and, as should be well known, social problems can rarely be solve…

That won't work, a camera can also photograph another screen or a fake printed photo. And also cryptographic modules can be cracked.

I would have thought most iPhones absolutely know if they're photographing a scene or a flat surface

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by CalRobert »

Sharlin wrote: post #26
CalRobert wrote: post #20

I don't know how society will function when it's as easy to fake a video or image as it is to draw a stick figure. Hopefully it at least means that people view what happened here as akin to scribbling boobs on someone's photo, but we're not there yet apparently.

Hopefully we’ll get back to the time back when people didn’t have to worry about someone filming them all the time. Cameras cryptographically signing all photos and videos should become the standard. Media that cannot be traced back to real camera hardware should a priori be considered fake or tampered with. Still, deepfakes are partly a social problem and, as should be well known, social problems can rarely be solve…

I can't imagine that governments will end their zeal for surveillance.
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