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Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by KevinMS »

markdown wrote: post #9
KevinMS wrote: post #8

Happens at my house sometimes. And has also happened at my previous apartments. Looks exactly the same. When they do construction on water pipes some of the sediment gets in and has to be cleared by the neighborhood. She is either lying or doesn't know what she's talking about. I also guarantee she shook up the bottle before her presentation because the sediment would have settled after a few hours.

It's the title that makes it murky. Should be "AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center construction". And yes, when water flows from a tap into a cup it gets "shaken up" plenty.

you missing the point that its a very temporary thing, or are you being deceived into thinking its permanent? If you are, then you are helping making my point for me.

Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by scarab92 »

OutOfHere wrote: post #15

Meanwhile, in Texas, they arrest people for documenting the water: Woman files lawsuit after arrest for Facebook post concerning Trinidad water supply issues https://www.fox4news.com/news/woman-arrested-facebook-post-c...

People opposed to data centres remind me of people opposed to mask wearing.

Both are attempting to dismiss something useful and important, over trivial and manageable issues.

Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by tracker1 »

I'm not sure if/how much of these (water) issues are the data centers themselves vs poor water management or other issues. Most water use in data centers should be able to be self-sufficient, mostly closed, and filtered/reusable locally... It's not like manufacturing.

Now, power usage is another story entirely and is outright concerning and should probably require a nuclear plant near some of these data centers as new construction.

Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by markdown »

KevinMS wrote: post #31
markdown wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the title that makes it murky. Should be "AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center construction". And yes, when water flows from a tap into a cup it gets "shaken up" plenty.

you missing the point that its a very temporary thing, or are you being deceived into thinking its permanent? If you are, then you are helping making my point for me.

Thanks. The dirty water is temporary, if by temporary you mean months. Do you think that disrupting water supply for more than a few hours is acceptable?

In any case, why are you defending the giant corporation doing this?

Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by ecshafer »

yfw wrote: post #3
ecshafer wrote: post #2

That doesn't make any sense. Data centers just use some water for water cooling of cpus, there isn't anything to pollute. If this isn't fake, its probably a broken line.

Rushed construction affecting well water https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8gy7lv448o

So its nothing to do with a data center, its something any large scale building could cause.

Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by shimman »

rho138 wrote: post #23
shimman wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes plenty of sense to me, the company that profited off of the Myanmar genocide likely also doesn't care about local regulations either or the impacts on American civilians either.

Burma

My bad, you right.

Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by Sabinus »

markdown wrote: post #34
KevinMS wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you missing the point that its a very temporary thing, or are you being deceived into thinking its permanent? If you are, then you are helping making my point for me.

Thanks. The dirty water is temporary, if by temporary you mean months. Do you think that disrupting water supply for more than a few hours is acceptable? In any case, why are you defending the giant corporation doing this?

Construction affecting residents is a normal problem for local government, regulation, and civil law to deal with. Wielding it as a weapon in the moral crusade against the evils of AI is demagoguery.

Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by KevinMS »

markdown wrote: post #34
KevinMS wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you missing the point that its a very temporary thing, or are you being deceived into thinking its permanent? If you are, then you are helping making my point for me.

Thanks. The dirty water is temporary, if by temporary you mean months. Do you think that disrupting water supply for more than a few hours is acceptable? In any case, why are you defending the giant corporation doing this?

> In any case, why are you defending the giant corporation doing this?

You are just not getting it. When they add new pipes, or attach to mains, they interrupt the flow of water. When its turned backed on, the flow of water kicks up the sediment that's already in the pipes. There's probably also a little that comes in from construction. Why people don't know this I have no idea, its happened to me many times in multiple locations. It goes away in a few hours usually. Never seen it last for more than a day.

Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by mmh0000 »

tracker1 wrote: post #33

I'm not sure if/how much of these (water) issues are the data centers themselves vs poor water management or other issues. Most water use in data centers should be able to be self-sufficient, mostly closed, and filtered/reusable locally... It's not like manufacturing. Now, power usage is another story entirely and is outright concerning and should probably require a nuclear plant near some of these data centers as ne…

  > Most water use in data centers should be able to be self-sufficient, mostly closed
[Citation Needed]

My understanding is that data centers CAN use closed-loop systems. But, most don't if they're not forced to, because it costs more than evaporating towers.

According to this[1], 88% of water-cooled data-centers use open-loop evaporation towers.

"up to 85% of the water data centers use evaporates and does not return to the water supply" [2]

[1] https://intelligence.uptimeinstitute.com/sites/default/files...

[2] https://mostpolicyinitiative.org/science-note/data-center-wa...

Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center

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Post by dzhiurgis »

johnea wrote: post #14

I don't read bsky due to javascript requirement. Here are some sources that don't require js: https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media/press-releases/ocasio-... https://www.commondreams.org/news/aoc-data-centers-water https://www.rawstory.com/aoc-data-center-drinking-water/

> I don't read bsky due to javascript requirement.

They also openly display communist symbols that are banned in much of Europe.

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